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Ante-post betting counts for little, not much money is wagered
On the St Leger or in general?
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Ante-post betting counts for little, not much money is wagered
On the St Leger or in general?
In general Nathan.
Value Is EverythingI thought after the Voltiguer that Bondi Beach would get his revenge over an extra 2F but with the ground on the fast side of good and Storm The Stars likely to be able to set his own fractions in front (unless Fields of Athenry reverts back to his front running tactics of previous wins) I am now not as confident – hopefully Buick will be much more handy than he was at York (not sure why jockeys always seem to think it is necessary to drop a hold up horse right out at the back of the field).
Judging by the forecast, looks like wind will turn around tomorrow. Probably side on early, but possible it’ll be a headwind by the Leger. Unlikely to benefit prominent runners as much as today. Fields Of Athenry seems likely to set a decent pace anyway, so hold up horses imo should not be inconvenienced. If anything, Bondi Beach was in the correct place in the Voltigeur anyway, pace being a good one.
Value Is EverythingI see that O’Brien has jocked William Buick off Bondi Beach in
favour of Colm O’Donoghue. I’m not sure I’m overly happy about
that decision :(I see that O’Brien has jocked William Buick off Bondi Beach in
favour of Colm O’Donoghue. I’m not sure I’m overly happy about
that decision
Remembering what happened with Frankie when winning the St Leger for Coolmore; might be more to do with Sheikh Mo than AOB.
Value Is EverythingOrder Of St George is out of the St Leger and running in the cuddies version in Ireland instead.
That leaves Storm The Stars and Bondi Beach as 7/4 joint favs in general.
As I said after the Voltigeur, those two horses seemed the value at 5/1 and 10/1. I’ve been with Storm The Stars for this since just before the Epsom Derby, when he was 16/1 and I thought he was still good value at 8/1 afterwards.
All that remains to happen now is for Fields Of Athenry, my ante-post Ebor pick, to come out and win this race to spoil the party. It has an inevitable feel to it
I’m not sure why they couldn’t have just committed Order Of St George to the Irish Leger, it sounds as if O’Brien feels he needs gutters to have been competitive at Doncaster. The Irish Leger is a poorer race in my opinion, rarely won by 3yo horses and it seems much more like a cup race for older horses than for 3yo Derby runners to try to gain consolation, not quite having the speed for 12f races.
It’s not a great St Leger and I have to disagree with the correspondent who yesterday described the race as “perfect” and urged people to keep their hands off it, via an article on the internet. Is this really all we should be expecting from a Classic?
The St Leger rather reminds me of the FA cup. It used to be the mainstay of that particular saturday, like the FA cup, but has fallen out of fashion and favour.
Racing is now more international that it is ever was. The St Leger has to compete with the Irish champion stakes and other contests and is coming up short. It’s a race that is rather stuck in the past and times haven’t moved with it, unfortunately.
Just wondering of Doncaster might get the rain and the Curragh escape the showers, leaving Aiden with Order Of St George in the wrong race, even after all the due care and attention given to keeping the options open.
I had to puzzle at the ATR verdict in their preview to the St Leger, that effectively made Storm The Stars their fourth choice after Fields Of Athenry, Order Of St George and Bondi Beach. I hope they are a bit off the mark there!
Of all the St Leger fields I have ever seen……this is definitely one of them
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
I see that O’Brien has jocked William Buick off Bondi Beach in
favour of Colm O’Donoghue. I’m not sure I’m overly happy about
that decision Remembering what happened with Frankie when winning the St Leger for Coolmore; might be more to do with Sheikh Mo than AOB.
You may well have a point there Ginger.
It’s a pity from my point of view (speaking out of my pocket) that he isn’t in the saddle,
he is a class act. O’Donaghue’s a good member of the O’Brien team, but there’s a reason why
he’s always down the pecking order and doesn’t often get to ride the sexier horses for
O’Brien….he’s a competent good rider, but that’s about it. I hope his ride on Qualify in
The Oaks earlier this year has given him the taste for more classic winners, although I think that one
was a shock to everyone, O’Brien and himself included.He will be under a good bit more pressure on a horse that looks likely to go off favourite.
Kiss of death strikes again and no cigar. I doubt that was much of a renewal to be honest.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Well if you think it’s not what it was that reverse placing has just livened it up and kept the Leger in the headlines as it always is.
Doncaster never fails to amaze, people on here moan every year about it but it always brings up something.
…..Shouldn’t be reversed.The interference looked worth more than the winning distance ,we need to get away from the win at all costs jockey mentality.Atenzi had ridden himself into a pocket and had to push his way out and then for the 2nd bit of interference he had failed to switch his whip into the correct hand to prevent it.
Correct disqualification in my view given the winning distance and Atzeni should get a ban aswell.In terms of the rules barging your way out should be outlawed and then jockeys wouldn’t do it because they know they’ll get disqualified….should have happened to Peslier on the Queens horse at Goodwood easy winner or not.
Although I had a saver bet on Bondi (not Simple), would have loved one of my local trainers (Kimpton) to win a Leger. However, imo this is the right decision. Seemed to me in the first incident Atzeni barged his way out. Intentional interference, not careless. Therefore, it should not matter if the “right horse won”.
Whether it would’ve been the same if the winner had been owned by the Queen (remember Goodwood)?
Value Is Everything…..Shouldn’t be reversed.The interference looked worth more than the winning distance ,we need to get away from the win at all costs jockey mentality.Atenzi had ridden himself into a pocket and had to push his way out and then for the 2nd bit of interference he had failed to switch his whip into the correct hand to prevent it.
Correct disqualification in my view given the winning distance and Atzeni should get a ban aswell.No it didn’t. Twice now Bondi Beach has had the chance to get past but didn’t. No way would he have won today without the interference – it was barely anything.
Not so sure on that – the filly forced her way out in the first place, then got leaned on by the runner up but the she gave him another hefty bump close home.
Centralised stewarding is now a must as at least then you would have the same people chairing the enquiry and thus a more consistent outcome, which is what everyone is after (and not getting at the moment).
I would have been more surprised had the filly kept the result.
Ironic that the jockey has now just won the next race in the same colours – thats racing!
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