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Yes but the virus is less a part of life in New Zealand where the government was swift to take quick and appropriate action. Life is valuable, and the only thing we have really got – really Captain, and we elect our governments to protect us from crime and disease don’t we ?
Far better than both of us planning an escape from a care home here in virus infested Britain, before tearing up
our do not resuscitate signs, that we instead be scaling the southern Alps together in South Island in a race to the top. Then neck down a cold krone, with you lying back on a resting sheep, while I consider an impossible base jump, after examining your death stats, and all done taking in the spectacular view.flatcapgamble…
I’m not gonna grieve old Durham town
I’m not gonna grieve old Durham town
I’m not gonna grieve old Durham town
Cos the grievings gonna lose my crown
New Zealand -46 people per square mile
England – 1010 people per square mileThe above stat is key when comparing the two countries.
I disagree as the future deaths that will directly happen from lockdown will far outweigh the deaths of the virus. Society will collapse and there will be no NHS for the children of today though collapse of society is clearly the plan from the unelected world government which is ultimately calling all the shots in every governments actions.
New Zealand as well as being so lowly populated is also the most isolated major country in the entire world which also has helped greatly with their success. NZ also has a significantly lower average age than the uk has. NZ prime minister has no doubt done a much better job than the fawlty towers style of government that we have got but NZ were always going to come out of this better than the uk no matter who was in charge.
The only people who should be on lockdown are those with underlying health conditions and those who are elderly and even then they should have the freedom to make that choice themselves though a clear help scheme (shopping, visits etc)for anybody in that bracket should be available to all who need it.
If you want your children, grand children to live a reduced life in poverty, violence and disease with no NHS and no freedom then you are right to support the lockdown.
This is obviously my own opinion and I respect your right to have your opinion.
Lockdown Enterprise – Captain’s log…SEVERE ACUTE RESPIRATORY SYNDROME CORONA VIRUS 2 stardate 2. Little sign of life and planet looks devastated. Ecosystem intact – Strange looking masked form of humanoid existing by all accounts in the southern hemisphere on an island surrounded by a large ocean. Have reportedly warded off the killer virus by introducing an immediate four level alert system and changing appearance to fool the enemy, and staying well hidden. End of log.
Bones…” Looks to be the handiwork of a woman Jim ”
Jim…” Now that is of some interest to me, beam me down Scotty ”
Scotty ” I wouldn’t be doing that Captain, I dunnae know if she’ll take to your suit and am worried what you might bring back ”
flatcapgamble…
We’re all going on a bummer holiday
No more isolation for a week or two,
Lungs hurt like the hereafter on our bummer holiday
Full of worries for me and you
For a week or two.You just brighten up my day gamble. When this is all by I want a 2 day pass to GambleWorld
Perhaps a guided tour by flatcapgamble
Well BigG the only place I think we could meet up with the dog and in a threesome in relaxed form, under the present stringent conditions, would be the glorious grounds of one Barnard Castle and possibly for sandwiches. If we feel a touch ill after the Marmite surprises we could take a stroll down to the nearby river, or alternatively might feel better if we wandered through the restorative Bluebell wood to let the nature and the blue rays take their healing effect on us.
Gambleworld is suffering a serious hangover today Big G, due to the double banger effect of allowing a nice bottle of Bordeaux to enter the castle last night through the secret back entrance.
It is a very ordinary world, in actual fact, and I tossed up yesterday between a Swedish trotting meeting or a stroll through Kensington Palace Gardens. I plumped for the latter and enjoyed seeing the bright sun glittering on the swan filled Long Pond accommodated by one of the widest and most expansive tree-lined avenue views in London, which took in Kensington Palace at the one end and stretched through the park past the impressive Physical Energy bronze black horse and across to the North water to Henry Moore’s Arch nicely in situ on the North bank. This beautiful vista was complemented by the littering scenes of a much more modern art and such stretched out hot fleshpots of slowly browning boobs and bums – some housed in in the tiniest of string bikinis, and released and bursting out, in such numbers and proximity to shock even a Queen of lesser royalty than our own, and one needed to throw down a hanky as a marker, and take a bold hop, skip, and a long jump to keep within the legality of lockdown.
flatcapgamble…I will have to check my diary.
hmmm..nothing in it.Captain Robbo, I presume you are either an epidemiologist or a virologist, otherwise your ‘opinion’ is uninformed.
Befair if that is the case then every single opinion on this thread is uninformed?
This guy is a doctor and has been studying virology for the last 50 years. This man speaks the truth and allows no advertising and gets zero revenue on his you tube channel. The WHO is a sham and the biggest world propaganda seen of all time designed to leave you living in fear and as a slave.
The whole thing is a complete scam. I probably had this virus and wasn’t right for 7 weeks or so in late December and early January (never tested obviously). It isn’t nice. One of my neighbours died from it. My cousin who is a paramedic and her husband who is a junior doctor both had the virus. All sad and not nice.
Destroying society for good is not the answer however.
A touch hyperbolic but I do have several degrees of sympathy with you Captain. The disorder, distress, unemployment and poverty that will be caused by what is likely to be at least a deep economic recession will quite possibly lead to ill-health and death on a larger scale than that caused by the virus itself, though cause and effect will be much harder to quantify than the relatively straightforward process of assigning illness/death to a single pathogen
Governments (ours at least) have dug themselves into a deep hole where the only means of escape will, sooner or later, be to take the least bad option. What is the least bad I really don’t know, though the longer the economy is held in limbo by lockdown and distancing measures the more strongly I’ll believe that risk of subsequent infection spikes is secondary to the risk of economic collapse. On the assumption that a vaccine will not be found for at least a year or so then the much-maligned ‘herd immunity’ approach will become inevitable
Very different times, following on from a crippling world war, but when it became obvious that the Spanish Flu was going to run riot government medical advisors suggested much the same measures as those we are in now but the advice, and indeed the pandemic iteself in its early stages, was suppressed as it was feared that implementing them would cause a collapse in what morale the public still had and risk long-term ruination of an already fragile economy
Good stuff from Dr Coleman who touches on the psychological fallout from the curtailment of civil liberties. A public compliance-through-fear (Orwellian or what?) has been engendered, whether deliberately or mistakenly, and this in my view will take a long time to alleviate
I would suggest you also view Dr John Campbell’s videos (thanks Moehat) which are equally calm and collected
Think this is the latest episode:
“There’s life Robbo, but not as we know it”
Dr Johns internet chats with the NZ doctor are so interesting. He points out that many things that safeguard us from illness [VitD3/melatonin] do not make money for the drug companies and are therefore disregarded. Also Dr John did two blogs about how to protect ones mental health during these turbulent times. He covers pretty much every area of concern.My daughter contacted a friend who had had cancer to advise her to take VitD3 [she is also BAME] only to be told that she was taking it under medical supervision because she was deficient in it.
As Joseph Conrad said, “Men learn wisdom with extreme slowness and are always ready to believe advice that flatters their secret hopes.” If you want proper evidence-based advice, rather than random youtube videos, follow the Lancet or the British Medical Journal. All research in these journals is peer-reviewed, and subject to significant scrutiny before publication.
always ready to believe advice that flatters their secret hopes
Confirmation Bias to use the psychobabble that Conrad would have found irksome
As in most things, none more so than now, I endeavour to read as many different opinions as possible, assimilate them and come to some sort of conclusion I feel most comfortable with; and the conclusions change frequently, or earlier ones are recycled
Amazing man was Conrad: Polish but his enduring tomes were witten in English, not translated.’The Secret Agent’ my favourite and was underwhelmed by his supposed masterpiece ‘Heart of Darkness’
Next time you take a flight, ask all the passengers for their opinions on how to fly the plane. You’re only a member of the Dunning-Kruger club if you don’t know you’re a member of the Dunning-Kruger club
Some excellent posts.
Cummingsgate, or the Cummings affair (which I marginally prefer) has been fingerlickin covid tasty, and even surpassed the last case of Poirot- which if you saw it – was an absolute spellbinder. For a detective this has been an absolute gift, something you’d wish for in your Xmas stocking and icing on the boring carrot cake that is lockdown. We’ve even surpassed Trump in the ratings war !
On a side issue…Hancock ….” Blah blah blah ”
Peston…
” Well I understand thaaaaat, but on the more direct question of whether th th th th test and track was implemented earlier enough..”
Hancock.._ “No, it’s test trace and isolate ” ( I WON )
If you were given the opportunity of discussing the Cummings affair over a wine dinner with Yvette or Amber which ‘erudite’ would you prefer to chink glasses with ?
flatcapgamble…Pretty ruddy obvious even from a dog perspective – Yvette for dinner Amber to drive you home, and if she ever leaves, – dream about it in the dog basket
.Captain Robbo I understand how social distancing is hurting the economy, and life and how most people recover from Covid 19, but a lesson on how not to handle it comes from Trump in America. By the way although likely to be out of date but the last global figure from Covid 19 is 5.5 million.
You've got to accentuate the positive.
Eliminate the negative.
Latch on to the affirmative.
Don't mess with mister in between.I suppose you could ask everyone over 45 to take up gardening and just fill the monasteries with those unable to bend to pick up a fork but who are not averse to a bit of red grape.
About 80,000, 45-65 year olds have died if you extrapolate the Chinese and US stats. About a third as deadly as Ebola overall, which killed a half of its victims, but the WHO 1% asymptomatic figure is now being touted as 80% after recent cruise ship analysis – so this looks a little hopeful re immunity for the herd.
The virus can mutate and with the Spanish flu outbreak the virus did just that and killed six as many people in its second wave as peoples immune system went into overdrive and produced too many antibodies – with the resultant killing of healthy cells.
Maitlis unusually took a break from her scheduled News night appearance last night as her Tuesdsy evening’s Cummingsgate was considered a boob, and has been apologised for by the BEEB. All quite fascinating.
I am one of the 2,000,000 sheltered sheep. Just packed two sandwiches – cheese salad and cucumber. The tortoise is going out for a roll. May be back for some Lyon.
flatcapgamble…
He’s lived in this house
For a good many year
And he’ll twist yer minds
And play on yer fears
He’s just a ghost
They call the talking toastYeah he’s a ghost
Who doesn’t wanna be yer host
Don’t ask him why
He can make you cry
Don’t ask him who
He can terrify you
WOOOOO OOO OOO OOO
WOOOOO OOO OOO OOO
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