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    Captain Robbo
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    Captain Robbo I understand how social distancing is hurting the economy, and life and how most people recover from Covid 19, but a lesson on how not to handle it comes from Trump in America. By the way although likely to be out of date but the last global figure from Covid 19 is 5.5 million.

    If Trump farted the media would blame him for making the hole in the ozone layer. I’m not a Trump fan but there has always been a clear campaign against him no matter what he does. He has actually done quite a lot of good things. He also never told anybody to inject themselves with Dettol despite what the media desperately want you to believe.

    USA has a population of 328 million and around 100,000 alleged corona virus deaths.

    UK has a population of 68 million and has had 38,000 deaths.

    So USA has a population almost 5 times the size of the UK yet has had just over 2.5 times as many deaths.

    The USA figures look even more impressive compared to ours when you realise that the virus is more dangerous to ethnic minorities specifically Black and Asian and the USA has far more Black and Asian people than the uk does. USA 72% white, UK 80% white.

    As well as the virus being more deadly to coloured people, people who are over weight are also much more likely to die. As we all know the USA has the highest number of obese people in the entire world.

    Trump is smashing us to bits but shouldn’t be on all known evidence, so why are you using Trump as an example of how not to do it, the figures show he has done a far superior job than Boris Johnson no matter how the media try to swing it.

    Sweden has had no lockdown, they have a population of 10 million and around 4000 deaths.

    So Sweden is also doing far better than the UK despite never having been put in lockdown at any time and not shutting the economy down. Sweden also has a higher average age than the UK population and an almost identical to the uk 80% are white Swedish.

    Had the world of gone into lockdown in 1968 with the Hong kong Flu that killed over a million people in a world of just 3.5 billion people then most of us over the age of 40 would already be dead now due to the poverty and destruction that lockdown would have caused and the knock on effects it would have had on life.

    The lockdown is wrong and evil but if you want to attack a world leader in the current crisis then surely it should be Boris Johnson and not Donald Trump who is getting the most flack.

    #1489046
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    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.nationalgeographic.co.uk/science-and-technology/2020/04/see-how-a-sneeze-can-launch-germs-much-farther-than-6-feet/amp

    A sneeze and cough can travel at 100mph and up to 27ft meaning that the ‘social distancing’ of people is pointless.

    Turn off the BBC who is filling you with fear. Go outside enjoy the good weather, when you walk past somebody instead of looking at them with horror and throwing yourself into the nearest shop doorway To avoid human contact. Try smiling at the people you walk past and spread the love, don’t spread fear. Be a human don’t let the world slave agenda change you.

    I salute all people who protest the lockdown. Modern day heroes.

    #1489047
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    James Tiberius Kirk…

    “A captain of a ship, no matter his rank, must follow the book”

    flatcapgamble…take a hanky with you !

    Tortoise…Can I go out ?

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    Avatar photoSirHarryLewis
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    What we know now is that the quicker you lock down, the more effective it is. The UK went a week too late and had a lot of mixed messages. It was without the doubt the worst handling we have seen and did little for the reputation of Whitty and Valens (most scientists don’t believe they were behind the main decisions).

    How one feels about lock downs and the curbing of freedoms VS risk and fatality rates is a separate argument. Sweden made its decision and was willing to pay the price for that. Easy to be brave though when its other peoples neck on the line.

    SHL

    #1489056
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    Sweden has had no lockdown, they have a population of 10 million and around 4000 deaths.

    So Sweden is also doing far better than the UK despite never having been put in lockdown at any time and not shutting the economy down. Sweden also has a higher average age than the UK population and an almost identical to the uk 80% are white Swedish.

    Sweden has a massive % of population who live on their own, especially young people. Apparently they leave home much earlier and do not bunk up with mates etc. This obviously all helps with the non-spread of C-19. One of the reasons why the government decided not to lock down. So looking at it like that they have had a high death rate but their economy hasn’t nose-dived like other countries.

    The lockdown is wrong and evil but if you want to attack a world leader in the current crisis then surely it should be Boris Johnson and not Donald Trump who is getting the most flack.

    You are saying the lockdown is wrong and evil but then mention Boris should take a lot of flack who in many people’s opinion like USA locked down too late.

    Both UK and USA were both too late in locking down but probably more importantly so in large-scale testing.

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    About 80,000, 45-65 year olds have died if you extrapolate the Chinese and US stats. About a third as deadly as Ebola overall, which killed a half of its victims, but the WHO 1% asymptomatic figure is now being touted as 80% after recent cruise ship analysis – so this looks a little hopeful re immunity for the herd.

    I wonder if Dominic Cummings knew this at the time he moved up to Durham. He says he moved up there as he thought most likely that he would become ill. According to this probably a 20% chance or less of becoming ill considering his age.

    #1489058
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    Sweden may have a high percentage of people living alone but that bears little relevance as they are all still going about their day, public transport is normal, they still have to go to work, they still go to the pubs, cafes and restaurants and do the shopping.
    Living alone or not shouldn’t make too much difference unless you are suggesting these single people never leave there house which I would find hard to believe.

    I actually said if you want to give a leader flack then Boris is a better target than Trump in reply to a gentleman saying look at Trump and insinuating he was the worst leader not because I think Boris has done a bad job. He just does as he is told same as all the others.
    It actually makes little difference what happens to Boris as even if he gets kicked out of the job he will only be replaced by another world government puppet who will do exactly as they are told just like Boris does.

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    Neither Boris nor Trump are worst leader. This award goes to the other right wing nutcase Bolsonaro of Brazil. But I guess you have all praise for him given he has defied all lockdown/social distancing measures ;-)

    #1489060
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    Absolutely I have praise for the Brazilian guy if he hasn’t done any lockdown, I haven’t really seen anything of Brazil as I generally try to avoid the news as much as possible.
    I have no surprise though that the puppet media have convinced people he is a nutcase if he is daring to go against what the world government are telling every country to do.
    He sounds like a top bloke but I don’t know enough about him to hold any opinion on him.

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    A cross between General Franco and PT Barnum.

    Often ignored by the adults in the room.

    SHL

    #1489104
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    Well Homer this 80% is speculative and a recent representative testing sample survey of around 4500 suggests only 7% of the general UK population have been infected. The figure is around 20% in London.

    I am particularly interested in islands because they can lock and control their borders far easier than landlocked nations. The first death on the Isle of Wight was of a man who had had contact from a traveller returning from the epicentre of Madrid who had been on holiday. Wellington in New Zealand has a low density of 2300 per square kilometre – a third as dense as London. I do not compare the very low virus deaths there directly with UK, but just the approaches. They closed their borders.

    I am not totally averse to a Swedish style solution but it has to be prepared properly and they have failed dramatically with their care homes.

    In the period from the beginning of this year to lockdown on the 23rd of March 18 million people arrived on flights to UK (10% down on the 20 million for the same period the year before). No temperature testing was done but there may have been a few notices about self isolating. Most of the flights were from America and Europe, but included 100,000 travellers from China 90,000 from Italy and 80,000 from Spain. Also 400 from Wuhan. Only 260 people were quarantined and they were from Wuhan. If you deduct returning nationals and those taking onward flights you are left with 7,000,000 entrants and we will never know how many were carrying the virus.

    A survey on 22 May reported by the New Scientist suggests that 15% of people had let friends or family into their homes recently which looks like an easing from the previous much stricter 95% adherence. Cummingsgate may indeed be having an effect.

    flatcapgamble…Old peoples homes have taken out all available videos of Cocoon – they’re like gold dust !
    Old people are the salt of the earth but they would prefer Mars right now :rose:

    #1491745
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    Fear greatly weakens the immune system yet from day 1 we were sold fear, fear and some more fear.

    The ‘virus’ kills more dark skinned people. This is because fairer skinned people produce more vitamin D when in the sun than dark skinned people. A key to not getting ill is to get outside as much as possible. But we were all placed Pretty much under house arrest from the start and advised only to go out for essential reasons.

    Wearing masks is extremely bad for you, a human is designed to breath in oxygen and breath out carbon dioxide this is a very important function to stay healthy. Wearing a mask will greatly restrict the amount of clean oxygen you are breathing in and the ammount of carbon dioxide you are able to breath out. The mask will cause you to not only breath back in the carbon dioxide but will also trap bacteria causing further health issues. A 19yo girl with zero health issues who worked at a supermarket 8 hours a day in a mask developeped Pleurisy a serious lung condition. Today’s mask wearers are clearly tomorrow’s lung victims and if any mask wearer gets any flu type virus then death will become a very serious possibility.

    Most businesses are now reopening yet strangely gyms, sports centres and swimming pools are not allowed to open. Fit people of course have stronger immune systems and are in a better position to fight any virus.

    There is no conspiracy the world government is purposefully trying to kill us all. Depopulation agenda is well under way. 8 billion people are no longer required and they want to bring the population down to around half a billion.

    Of course if everybody could open there eyes and see what’s happening we could stand up and fight them and beat them and reclaim our world.
    Black Lives Matter is in theory a very valid organisation though ultimately there policies are extremely dangerous and instead of bringing people together and removing racism they are actually increasing racial tensions and dividing the population. With people against each other we are in a weaker position to stand up and take the world back from the evil people running it. George Soros the multi billionaire globalist is one of the movements main investors and this guys intentions are certainly not to create harmony around the world.
    Of course when the more devestating 2nd wave is released many white people who’s family members will die will blame black people and the BLM protests for the death of their family. This will create even further divide and greater racial hatred than any time in history though this is of course all part of the plan.

    Social distancing and separating people from families and loved ones causes huge psychological problems which in turn funnily enough will weaken your immune system further and cause mental illness on a massive scale.

    Nothing that is being done is to help us it’s all being done to kill us. Feel free to ignore this fact and trust in the BBC. People have never been so stupid as they are now and when the vaccine is released guess what it won’t help you it will help to kill you. Conspiracy theory???

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    How is BLM increasing racial tensions?

    #1491748
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    Well it’s not decreasing them, is it?

    #1491751
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    It’s campaigning for the eradication of systematic and institutional racism which would certainly decrease racial tensions in the long-term, Kris.

    #1491772
    Captain Robbo
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    Well BLM is clearly causing racial tension on both sides I only need to view my Facebook feed to see that.
    Although 95% of the people that support BLM are good decent people who’s heart is in the right place ultimately the people running BLM (George Soros) and his placed leaders of the movement want the police force abolished, everyone released from prison and prisons to be a thing of the past and capitalism abolished. BLM is ultimately toxic as is anything that George Soros has his hands in.
    A decent movement for genuine anti racism would be excellent but the George Soros BLM is ultimately anything but excellent.

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8441405/amp/The-avowed-aims-British-arm-Black-Lives-Matter.html

    #1491773
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    Interesting how nobody can explain why every single thing of lockdown for Covid 19 actually causes people to have weakened immune systems and lung problems.

    Never mind keep listening to Boris and the bbc they have your best interest at heart and want to protect you all. How lovely.

    My gosh only tin foil hat wearing nut jobs spout conspiracy theories.

    Ps this is your children and grand children who are going to suffer but chin up and stiff upper lip.

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