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  • #1585890
    clivexx
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    Jesus

    I thought that was a good one too.

    Who ever said the hard left have no sense of humour ?

    #1585891
    Avatar photoDrone
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    Ginger,

    You’ve made several references to the Carpathians, as if you believe they would provide difficult territory to attack and therefore a useful location for a ‘guerilla resistance’ and as a safer route for NATO arms movements

    The Carpathians in Ukraine skirt just the far southwest of the country and are little more than high and generally verdant hills with the highest point being just 6,000 ft above sea level. Plenty of roads and plenty of villages in the not-so-deep valleys

    Therefore, if your intention was to infer a potential parallel with the torrid time the Russians suffered in the mountains of Afghanistan, I fear you are on a non-runner

    In any case, the brown bears, wolves and lynxes that abound there might get a bit uppity if their peace and quiet is disturbed :yes:

    Google Earth is a great resource to get an idea of the geography of an area. Plenty of nice photos donated by visitors too

    #1585892
    clivexx
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    Oh well

    We can laugh at this

    #1585912
    Avatar photoBigG
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    Ginge wrote “Finland and Sweden can tell Russia that (despite voicing the opposite) Russia has already
    attacked a non-NATO country and (being non-NATO themselves) can no longer trust Russia not to invade
    them. Therefore can give an ultimatum that unless Russia gets out of Ukraine ASAP, both Finland and
    Sweden will have no choice but to immediately join NATO.”

    That’s all absolutely true Ginge, but Ukraine made it very clear that they would pursue membership
    of Nato, Sweden and Finland, (as yet) haven’t given Russia such an ultimatem. If they do, then you
    then you are right. Not only could they not be trusted, I think they would have no option left other
    than to invade Sweden and Finland. Like I said before this whole thing is teetering on the brink.

    As for Guerilla tactics, I still think it will be difficult to get supplies to them whilst there are
    sufficient numbers of Russians to guard the ports/routes to them. I think the best bet would be for
    an uprising in Russia with Putin being deposed. I don’t think even the Russians want the risk of
    Neuclear war, who would ?…..oh yes, there is always heid the baw.

    #1585914
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    There is zilch chance of
    a nuclear war
    Why ?
    Putin is not in total control
    particularly so as he
    has miscalculated.
    Finland and Sweden will not
    join NATO now
    Why ?
    The BEAR

    Possibly in two years…
    It will depend on
    Russia v Ukraine
    and if Ukraine
    puts up a strong fight
    it could well happen

    #1585915
    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    Anyone thinking the Russians are going to march right across half of Europe …..Putin barely has enough troops to manage Ukraine if he wants to take the whole country , if he does manage the take Ukraine he,ll be fighting for years to keep control …

    #1585918
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    I would agree with that…

    Ukraine’s eastern frontline is far too extensive too defend. Russia will certainly take land.
    The peace talks have been set up
    to give Russia a bargaining chip and a way of getting out
    if the going gets too tough.
    Remember the 40 km snake that
    aint exactly a snake in the grass.

    #1585919
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    and if Finland and Sweden were to join Nato HDLG, and I agree with Gamble, I don’t think
    they will, what do you think Russia would do if they did ? As for not having the troops,
    they have the largest Army on the face of the planet (USA aside) but the largest neucleur
    arsenal.

    I still think the best way of alleviating this risk is to have him deposed.

    #1585920
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    Putin is talking to Bennet
    only because he is on the back foot.
    See his body language ( nervous)
    Cf. to Bennet’s (calm)

    #1585921
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    Putin has started smiling a lot in a feigned relaxed manner.
    When he smiles he is worried !
    Orwell’s Doublethink !
    Putin is in control as it stands
    His control will weaken if his army continues to underperform
    or if he escalates the war with tactical weapons to make up for this.
    I don’t think he is stupid enough to do that
    So unfortunately we are in for
    the long haul.

    #1585922
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    I don’t think Putin is rational at the moment Gamble, which makes him even more dangerous.
    Whatever is thrown his way, I don’t think he will want to be seen as a dog with it’s
    tail between his legs. Hopefully his own party and generals will come to that conclusion
    before he does something EVEN more stupid than invading Ukraine.

    #1585923
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    As for his rationality
    BigG he is still embittered KGB.
    He wants people to think he
    is on another planet.
    You may be right but he
    has very high ideals for Russia and being the world’s
    richest man (170 billion before the invasion) means little to him. Riches can be quite boring. He wants seismic change. His moon steroid face is a concern but I think a calculating mind is at the back.
    I bought some excellent Russian vodka tonight. Half the bottle remains as I turn in. I may see thing differently in the morrow.

    #1585924
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    I could do with the other half Gamble :yes:

    #1585925
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    :yahoo:

    I’ve just looked at it – its slightly more than half
    Thank God.

    I am totally blaming
    Putin’s war for my drinking !

    #1585926
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    What was that quote ? “It was a woman that drove me to drink, and I
    didn’t even have the the decency to thank her for it”

    #1585927
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    I’m putting the lights out now Gamble, I’m trusting you to have that bottle marked
    and in the same state in the morning. Nighty night :bye:

    #1585928
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    I thought about helping out in Ukraine but I am past the sell by date of a fighting man apparently and according to Matial law dictates. You can only shoot straight if your 60 or less.
    I could help out indeed, but I do love my lie ins, and serving high alcohol drinks to the Ukrainian front line might make em think I am a double agent like Anthony Blunt.

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