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  • #1662586
    Richard88
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    Bet365 have a couple of total tries in the match markets. They certainly could flow if someone scores early so overs look the way to go.

    #1662594
    Richard88
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    Wow what a game.

    #1662597
    Avatar photosporting sam
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    Well Richard there were a few more than five tries! Hope you were on. My brace try scorer could have had two.
    Fiji blew it in the end and by trying on numerous occasions to barge over the line instead of holding their line and receiving inevitable penalty tries lost the match. Easy to say as an observer but they had huge dominance in final phase play.
    The long cut out pass when you have a three or four man overlap? pointless and unlucky the guy who dropped the ball with glory awaiting!!!

    If you have someone down as a brace scorer you have to have him as a score anytime max bet.
    Dan Biggar landed the 12 points despite injury and left the field on completing his task!!

    #1662599
    Richard88
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    I don’t bet at the moment Sam but I am enjoying following yours. Off to a pretty good start.

    I think I can say I got my theoretical money back from my disastrously bad Argentina tip!

    #1662972
    Richard88
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    Just looked at the betting for this round, Australia the biggest priced of the favourites at 1/3. Add in the other seven and your odds go up to 2/5 :wacko:

    The seven point handicap on Australia v Fiji is the only one anywhere near single figures. Most of the others are a lottery as to whether the favourite can be bothered to score enough tries to cover it.

    If I was betting I’d probably be doing some low stakes, high odds bets if anything. Could be a bit of value in any time tryscorers for the underdogs too, especially where the favourites have made wholesale changes.

    #1662982
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    France vs Uruguay
    A big call for the second half just started

    Uraguay are going great guns. Uraguay to score 2+ tries @ evens
    A try disallowed in the first half and they’ve already scored one unless I’ve read the bet wrongly they need to score once more…
    Very good start and I’m hopeful of a try from the away team in the next forty minutes.

    #1662991
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    Twenty minutes to go in this festival of free money.
    Handicap
    Uruguay (+25.5) @ 4/5
    Current score France 20 Uruguay 12

    #1662992
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    This is way better than I expected, a shame they gave up the try almost immediately and France starting to turn the screw finally.

    #1662994
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    Maybe not, expected them to score there and perhaps even force a yellow card. This is still not over.

    #1663003
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    Well done again Sam.

    Ended only one point difference with the France NZ game :wacko:

    #1663007
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    Hi Richard,

    I was very tempted to take the next available handicap line at +15.5 but didn’t want to be greedy!
    Would have been a sweat.
    Well Uruguay were excellent but huge questions about France imo. Defence cut to ribbons and the game changing holes will be exploited by better sides. Kiwis must be kicking themselves even though they didn’t need the points.
    Not everyone ( anyone ) likely to agree but
    My current world rankings (for this tournament)
    South Africa
    Ireland
    Australia
    England
    New Zealand
    France
    Wales
    Fiji

    #1663045
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    Yes +15.5 would have been fun, I feared for your +25.5 before the try was disallowed and all credit to Uruguay, they kept playing right to the end when it would have been easy to give up.

    Agree, you have to make SA number one at this stage. Scotland have a good side and whilst they did well to contain SA for a half, the Boks got on top after half time and never let up.

    Bigger tests to come for Ireland but you can only beat whoever is in front of you and they did so emphatically.

    NZ and France remain dangerous but definitely questions about both so far.

    I can barely separate Wales, Australia and Fiji. I think Australia will win at the weekend but Fiji remain a major banana skin and it’s not out of the question that one of the three is eliminated with only one loss. Georgia are no mugs but will struggle from here I think.

    Pleasantly surprised by England, the task of winning the pool looks straightforward and hard to see anyone other than Argentina joining us, they are better than their first game and will surely improve.

    #1663051
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    I had an opportunity to go the handicap line earlier at around +35 points, but needed more proof that they could hold out in the second half. There wouldn’t have been anymore staked but it would have been an easier ride! As it was Uraguay were more than up to it. Only issue with the bucket load of penalties they got it was pointless opting to kick for lineouts as they were cleaned out in the lineouts 80%. And France coughed up possession freely. As an ex player backs have one job. To score tries after the forwards have done ALL of the ground work. This is never truer than when a team are camped on the try line and the defence cannot cross that line. So many times France had five man overlaps built by repeat phases from the forwards and commit and passes through the hands will always lead to a try. But of course some smart arse stand off will put in a thirty feet cut out pass or a cross field kick to look great and the certain try is bombed. This happened to France last night and did for Fiji the other night.
    Tonight New Zealand should be able to rack up enough points to cover a overall match total points line of +83.5
    I estimate they will score around 12 tries plus and convert half of them that is a conservative estimate of 72 points I’ve got the opposition managing either two penalties and a try for 8..9 or ten points. So we should be looking at about 90 plus total points. So the total points line is too low. Given that twelve tries is the minimum that the kiwis should score tonight.

    #1663079
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    A slightly better wager than the above in my humble opinion is the number of tries that the kiwis could manage in both halfs. Because of the delays and breaks in play, it can be difficult for a side to get into any fluent rhythm and keep the scoreboard ticking over.
    Bear in mind that New Zealand nearly scored in the opening minutes against France and you get a sense of the task facing the Namibians here.
    With that in mind and a danger that the total line could be distorted by the hold ups. New Zealand would want to make an immediate mark and the bet of New Zealand to score 6+ tries on each half takes away the jeopardy of wether they will convert enough kicks to reach a really big total.
    At 2/1 the better odds means a much lower stake for an equal or better return.

    You just have to trust that the kiwis commit to crossing the whitewash from an early stage.

    New Zealand to score 6+ tries in each half @ 2/1.

    #1663130
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    Ran out of time. All black tries numbered 11. All going well with six scored exactly in the first half. First losing bets of the tournament!!

    #1663143
    Richard88
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    Unlucky there Sam. I didn’t see it this evening but you probably were at least right with your bet being better than the total points one.

    Plenty more to get stuck into at the weekend :good:

    #1663177
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    Ironically I saw that nz to score a try inside the first five minutes was 6/1 thought about it, but for some reason passed it over. From the start it was obvious they were going to score quickly. That is the one that got away!
    As you said more today…

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