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    Running Rein
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    Some good points from JamesH re 6th of July and other dates will be similar.

    I have thought for some time that RTV should attempt to make a virtue out of a necessity by trialling a totally different broadcasting approach on these ‘busy’ days.
    They should take a look at NFL’s ‘Red Zone’ coverage where the difficulty of covering 8 or 9 concurrent games is handled by a talented host (Scott Hanson) with sufficient aplomb that some viewers prefer this over the old school format. Red Zone is fast paced, irreverent and dramatic and whilst racing would be more difficult to package exactly the same way I think a workable format is possible.

    Personally, I would make it studio based for that day, have long (free to air) race previews from breakfast time and have a rotating panel with one host as a hub (Nick Luck spings easily to mind but others may be possible).
    The whole day – Breakfast Preview – Live Racing coverage – In depth review can be packaged as a new style format and possibly product (with one day cheap price), attendant competitions/prediction products, customer interaction.

    It is fairly clear the current approach wont please many and whilst a new format as suggest above will certainly not work perfectly first time, I think quite a few practical approaches may emerge from different radical thinking and application.

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    KevMc
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    That’s basically what they’re trying to do just now RR?

    They have ‘the full SP’ then raceday live, jump all over the place between meetings like Redzone do but without the control (as it’s racing and not 10 second clips of action) and then they do a small review show at the end, mainly because they have ‘The Verdict’ on the Monday after the weekend been. Your suggestion for the main action is basically WH TV.

    Racing (especially class 1 meetings) need dedicated coverage, it’s incredibly intricate and the people who subscribe to RTV won’t pay £25 a month to not see these intricacies explored.

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    Gladiateur
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    “They should take a look at NFL’s ‘Red Zone’ coverage… “

    So racing should be dumbed down to the point where it’s basically just the finishes shown, accompanied by rubbish music and focusing mainly on “fantasy stable” points?

    No, thank you. :negative:

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    SSR was a bit amateurish today, picture break up when doing live links from Hexham, during the 3.00 from Hereford the camera cut to Alex Hammond writing something then realising she was on camera for a second.

    Surely Sky need to be more professional than this if it wants to persuade tracks to switch in the future.

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    Oh dear Rtv have Aintree and Leopardstown on Saturday and 1.40 Leopardstown is just 5 mins before 1.45 at Aintree and 4.20 and 4.25 again 5 min gap.

    Someone at Rtv will be crossing all their fingers that the horses and Leopardstown behave.

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    GoldenMiller34
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    Yes, it’s sacrilege to show outside meetings during the Cheltenham and Aintree Festivals especially the latter and particularly on Grand National Day.

    On Friday Wexford (Jumps) and Leicester follow at five minute gaps immediately after the Topham and the 4.40. It’s a complete ruination of the coverage the Topham, for example, should receive on a specialist channel to cut away from it one second after they have crossed the line. Thank goodness for ITV! The advantage to be gained is that the aftermath and re-run can be viewed on the terrestrial channel and may finish just in time to catch RTV’s belated re-run too!

    ITV can also be employed for a proper, uninterrupted build up to and post race analysis of all Aintree races on Saturday, Steve. Quite frankly, if RTV wants to fulfil its boast of bringing top coverage of the best racing it could relegate the (in this case extremely unwelcome) Irish racing to RTV Extra. Looking at the history of Irish enthusiasm for the GN I would think only a small minority of Irish viewers would complain about a Flat meeting, FFS, being so treated.

    The import, however, of being forced to switch to a mainstream channel to fully enjoy key moments of the Aintree Festival brings home the reality of why I and many others (thousands I hope) will be cancelling our RTV subs in a few weeks time.

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    It’s one thing to run a channel like this when it’s non subscription but when people are paying for it,it’s just not good enough.
    I’m just waiting for them to show a race from punchestown 5 minutes before the 2,000 Guineas

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    I dislike the TV angles that SSR do via their vehicle like. RTV do not do it unless ITV are showing the same card then they seem to follow suit. I have no idea why.
    I want to watch every horse jump a hurdle/fence not the first few and at such a bad angle.
    Maybe I am old fashioned but I want to watch every horse in the race. Personally I think SSR and ITV are poor only because of their viewing angles though.
    If you subscribe to RTV surely you have an i-pad/compuer/smart phone and so when they have several races close just log on and watch live from your selected track. I think it’s excellent.

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    Kris
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    The angles chosen by every channel badly need looked at.

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    £10 for 10 months offer, just for today. Good value imo.

    https://www.racingtv.com/racingtvoffers/grandnational?utm_source=emie&utm_campaign=gn

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    GoldenMiller34
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    Yes, but an insult to loyal customers paying £25 per month.

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    Gladiateur
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    Signed up for the £10 offer on Thursday (I received an invitation letter in the post) and it astonishes me that you still only get HD via Sky (I use Virgin Media, so have to use the RTV offer on Freeview).

    The sound quality is also very poor for this day and age- there is a harsh sibilance when people are talking, particularly in the studio.

    I certainly wouldn’t pay full whack for this service.

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    RTV more often than not do a £10 for 10 months or similar type of deal, why dont they just realise that at 25 quid a month its too expensive and have a set rate of 10 or even 15 and thats it.

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    Split screen first race with the idiot Stanley yapping all over the Haydock commentary to tell us Limerick had jumped.

    Rtv are just a big joke.

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    GoldenMiller34
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    Yes they are, I just watched Sandown on ITV today for the proper pre and post-race coverage the meeting should be given on a specialist channel but wasn’t. What you refer to above, Steve, is a typical example of RTV tarnishing existing coverage as it bends over backwards to appease Irish criticism. I read this week that RTV has gained 6000 Irish subscribers this year, however, it was bound to gain some and whether or not that is a good figure I don’t know. Hopefully it will lose more British subscribers than that and when I ring up in a few days to cancel I will tell them exactly why!

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