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    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    Librettist,

    A horse gone in her coat means she / he is losing her summer coat. When going racing this is usually obvious. Longer hairs appear, I usually spot it on the belly first. It also appears duller.

    Some horses are effected by it, some aren’t. But it is a sign it may be past it’s best and is something to look out for in the paddock at this time of year. I would want a bigger price to back a horse wrong in it’s coat.

    In this case it is more significant than that. If a horse is getting it’s winter coat and then travels to a hotter country it might sweat more. Rainbow View sweated up even at Ascot, so if she has her winter coat in a hotter climate…
    She could "boil over". Even if she were capable of running to her best with a winter coat here, she might not there. But it is all conjecture Librettist.

    Mark

    Librettist,
    Miss Rocherster, Pediment and Sea Chorus all had poor coats today at Goodwood. None showed their form. Starfala was not great either, but did.
    Unfortunately I had already backed the first two of those. But did go in again on track for Storyland because of the formers poor and Storyland’s good coat.

    Mark

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    #183134
    davidjohnson
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    Any chance that handicap marks and effectiveness on turf were at least as big a factor in that race as coats? I’m looking forward to seeing Starfala over an extra 2f.

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    Any chance that handicap marks and effectiveness on turf were at least as big a factor in that race as coats? I’m looking forward to seeing Starfala over an extra 2f.

    Of course it was David, everything has to be taken in to account. Coats / well being is just another thing to consider. I had already backed Storyland considering her form / likelyhood of improvement, going, distance, trainer form etc. Above all value. But went in again after seeing her in the paddock. 6/1 looked good value.

    Totally agree with your assessment of Starfala David.

    Mark

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    #183159
    Getzippy
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    Quite surprised to read that Rainbow View could be going to the BC.

    Hmm, not sure if it means they think success will be more elusive next year….I guess if you have the amunition, why not go for it…if she can prove herself the best juvenile filly in the world.

    Not easy on dirt…but will make intriguing viewing..she certainly has a good cruising speed, a nice turn of foot and class in abundance.

    Looking forward to it now!

    Zip

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    Snoqualmie Girl did nothing to compliment Rainbow’s form. Appeared all at sea on the rain-affected track. If she has form on it, then she was just awful.

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    Bulwark
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    I disagree Myles, Snoqualmie Girl being by Montjeu would have been much suited to a doncaster mile on worse ground than todays newmarket 7f. Rainbow Views form still reads well IMO.

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    She was being ridden to keep up with the tete de la course, a group of about 4 or 5 horses in the end. I’m inclined to think something was just off today, or she didn’t feel like it today etc etc

    But regardless, it will be horses like Dreamtheimpossible who boost or deflate Rainbow View’s potential.

    Nashmiah ran a decent race, on the flipside.

    #184208
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    A pity but Gosden reports she will not go to the BC as she has gone in her coat.

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    Getzippy
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    Just as it was getting exciting :(

    Zip

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    bbobbell
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    Frankie in place of Fortune is a big plus.

    Quite how you can say that is beyond me. Jimmy Fortune is a fine rider and Frankie, good though he is does not seem as hungry these days. However it is all academic as she is finished for the season.

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    jinnyj
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    Librettist,

    A horse gone in her coat means she / he is losing her summer coat. When going racing this is usually obvious. Longer hairs appear, I usually spot it on the belly first. It also appears duller.

    Some horses are effected by it, some aren’t. But it is a sign it may be past it’s best and is something to look out for in the paddock at this time of year. I would want a bigger price to back a horse wrong in it’s coat.

    In this case it is more significant than that. If a horse is getting it’s winter coat and then travels to a hotter country it might sweat more. Rainbow View sweated up even at Ascot, so if she has her winter coat in a hotter climate…
    She could "boil over". Even if she were capable of running to her best with a winter coat here, she might not there. But it is all conjecture Librettist.

    Mark

    In my experience horses tend to go a bit weak when they change their coats but usually return to their former well being once the coat has "set" – I think they put energy into this coat changing which is why people think "going in their coat" is the best time to avoid them. Once the coat sets and you have clipped them out they are usually fine. Jumpers are the obvious example, but I would always avoid running one of mine when they are in the middle of getting their winter /summer coat. Likewise my dog (a greyhound) can look pretty manky when hes changing his coat and drops a few pounds.

    Horses (especially 2yos) will also go weak when going through a growing phase and it is up to the trainer to spot this. They can show this in different ways from the obvious (rear end shoots up higher than the front end) to not so obvious like lying down sleepig alot during the day or "climbing" in their faster paces where they are struggling to adjust their stride to a weakness in their growing build.

    I think a great many 2/3yos are ruined by trainers not easing back on horses when they are in these phases and it can be attributed to horses "not training on." Trainers used to look round at evening stables and stand them up to look at them side on every night to assess their charges as well checking the legs are ok. Also they relied more on their head staff and lads to tell them when they weren’t happy with the horse. Nowadays, I think alot of trainers are too busy and staff over stretched so alot is missed.

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    MCFC Stan
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    My big reservation about her is that John Gosden has trained several top juvenile fillies and has won the Fillies Mile a fair few times in recent years but non of them won a classic and were a bit disappointing as 3 year olds. So while I’d consider her in May if she’d had a pre run and looked to have retained her ability, she’s not an ante post proposition.

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