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- October 3, 2016 at 23:52 #1265566
Forgive me if it’s quite early, but I’m really burning for this!
Late congratulations to all who got the Arc winner, I was terribly wrong with the yellow dotted horse, but at least I didn’t back him. I also had a successful weekend thanks to Marsha, she’s a four legged goddess!
But now looking ahead:
I would assess it a two horse race between Quiet Reflection and Limato, but would Limato even run if it rains?
I know that this Shalaa has returned, her comeback race was quite impressive, but I wouldn’t rate her good enough to be a real danger. What do you think?
I have another question: 7/2 for Quiet Reflection is quite low, would it be better to wait for the day of the race?
Cheers and good night, HBOctober 4, 2016 at 00:26 #1265568It’s never too early to be putting up a thread mate.
I’m sticking next years Arc winner up soon, once it’s confirmed the horse will be in training next year.
You’re bang on about Limato and the possible going, a big negative for that horse if that’s what turns up to be the case. Quiet Reflection on the other hand would relish it, she’d be my choice even at the 7/2, I believe she has been placed very well and had decent breaks between races. Shalaa is great but this will be a big step up from the other day and the bounce factor is a possible here and I’m not sure about this 80% stuff coming from Gosden and Dettori but if he’s back to his best it’ll be some race.Gaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
October 4, 2016 at 17:21 #1265627I had hoped that SIGNS OF BLESSING would have come to this race
via the Haydock Sprint Cup (as I’d backed him) but Francois Rohaut had decided to
put him away after his LARC PRIX MAURICE DE GHEEST win at Deauville in early August
with this race as the target. He looked to have improved in that race, and won as he
liked without breaking sweat.He has only had two forays over the channel, both at Ascot, the first at 3 where he
led the a Group 3 6f race until 2 out before tiring. The latter was in the Diamond
Jubilee Stakes in June this year where he did considerably better, finishing a neck
and shd behind Twilight Son. He had The Tin Man a further 5L behind, who subsequently
won the Hackwood Stakes and was runner up in the Haydock Sprint Cup behind Quiet
Reflection. With what looked to me like an improved run last time out at Deauville,
SOB’s odds of 16/1 looks decent value, considering The Tin Man is vying for 2nd fav
around 7/1.I’m more scared of Limato than I am of Quiet Reflection. The going at Ascot was soft
on Saturday, but if the forecast is right between now the 15th, there is virtually
no rain forecast and with reasonable temperatures and a fair bit of drying wind I don’t
think things will be any worse than good with the possibility of a tad firmer. Quiet
Reflection has won 6 out of her last 7, the only time she was beaten was on GF. She
clearly likes a lot of cut and I don’t think she will get it. Limato beat her fair and
square on that occasion and with decent ground, unlikely to have any mention of soft
in it, I don’t see why that would be reversed.There will be a few that will drop out between now and then, but Signs Of Blessing,
barring a mishap, will appear regardless of conditions. 16/1 e/w looks a sound bet to
me.October 4, 2016 at 19:11 #1265638Got my eye on him as well BigG, certainly a great e/w price at the moment.

Just waiting to see what the plans are for my other fancy Washington DC who seems to be coming good at the right time for this meeting.
Best of luck
October 6, 2016 at 22:52 #1265856Do you think Limato is going to run BigG..?
Massive at 10/1 but at that price looks an unlikely runnerGaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
October 7, 2016 at 19:20 #1266048Hearts ruled my head. Washington DC @ 16’s to win.
Only entry from AOB so you would think he would want a runner in this G1.
Seems to be improving quite a bit towards the end of the season. Ran a fine race over 5F in France.
October 7, 2016 at 22:42 #1266085Do you think Limato is going to run BigG..?
Massive at 10/1 but at that price looks an unlikely runnerI think it will depend on how he came out of his win at Chantilly Nathan. It would only give
him 2 weeks between the 2 races, but he didn’t appear to have had a hard race, he won comfortably.
It will be down to how Henry Candy thinks he has come out of the race. I’ll give you that it does
seem a bit generous of PP going 10/1, do they know something that we don’t?As much as I would love to see him run, from a betting perspective it wouldn’t break my heart if
he stayed away, as Signs Of Blessing is my sole bet. This has always been the plan for SOB, and I
think that the 16/1 that is still on offer represents decent value. I think he will be a lot
shorter come Saturday week.October 9, 2016 at 09:12 #1266332Went with my head and backed yours BigG on the exchanges @20’s to win.
Added an e/w @ 20’s with 365
October 9, 2016 at 11:26 #1266350That’s a great price botchy, lets hope he does us both a favour
October 9, 2016 at 11:51 #1266353THE TIN MAN 8/1
Loves Ascot ignore that run in Diamond Jubilee.Last two runs been very good 2nd in group one and winner at Newbury as long he breaks well do not see him out of 1st 3
October 9, 2016 at 12:08 #1266362I think Shalaa has a good shout here. Doesn’t have alot to find to be in the shake up.
October 10, 2016 at 19:53 #1266579What a days racing this weekend promises to be. This looks like being the 6F race of the year as most do, if everyone lines up.
October 10, 2016 at 23:56 #1266594I have backed TWILIGHT SON at 10/1 in the hope that the word soft comes up in the going description !!
October 11, 2016 at 00:04 #1266595I hope someone nabbed the 10’s on Limato 11/4 fav now but still not guaranteed to run.
Gaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
October 11, 2016 at 02:07 #1266644I wish I had now Nathan, that “over generous” 10/1 on Limato I mentioned 3 days ago looks
bloody HUGE now. Generally 2/1, with a tad of 11/4, it certainly wasn’t my hard earned that
brought about the tumble….not a penny on.I haven’t changed my mind, Signs Of BLESSING will do for me, and I still think Limato is
the biggest danger. I suppose the good thing is that it has unsettled the market and pushed
prices out. SIGNS OF BLESSING is out to 20/1, so I’ll top up a little.Librisa Breeze has risen 21 lbs in the last six months, and won with such a huge turn of foot
at the end of the Totescoop6 Challenge Cup last time out at Ascot that I’m not sure that he’s
not even better than his new mark. He would however have to be some horse, who has done all his
winning over distances between 7 and 10f, to win a top race like this, having never run at a
distance this short. Ivory had him entered in this and the Balmoral Handicap over 8f on Champions
Day, but this is now his sole entry. The pace in this will make up a bit for the drop in trip, and
whilst this is undoubtedly a big step up, he’s an interesting contender with that electric turn of
foot. How much the race at Ascot took out of him only Ivory will know. 2 weeks isn’t a lot of time
to have him spot on, and he’ll have to be, so I’ll wait for the 2 day decs before deciding if I’ll
chance a bet. If he’s still there I reckon he’s e/w value, having been also pushed out in the betting
to 12/1I can’t disagree with you muggins_here, Shalaa looked class last year and is probably, of the
fancied runners, the one open to most improvement in the race. Considering he was off for a year,
he would be entitled to come on from his comeback win at Ascot at the start of the month. As long as
the dreaded “bounce factor” doesn’t come into play, the 7/1 looks well worthy of consideration. Good
luck with him
October 11, 2016 at 09:43 #1266651As long as the ground isn’t too bad (some rain predicted for Friday) I reckon the tin man must have a fantastic chance. Only one to give Quiet reflection a race last time out, and that would have been on ground that was unsuitably soft for him.
October 11, 2016 at 10:26 #1266656As long as the ground isn’t too bad (some rain predicted for Friday) I reckon the tin man must have a fantastic chance. Only one to give Quiet reflection a race last time out, and that would have been on ground that was unsuitably soft for him.
He’s definitely in with a shout judge, and I know Darren has always been really keen on him. I can’t work
out how the ground will be come Saturday, I mentioned before that I thought it would be no softer than
good and perhaps a tad firmer as at that point there was virtually no rain forecast. I see there are a few
light showers between now and then, but also reasonable temperatures and enough wind to continue drying
conditions. The present going is “Outer: good, good to soft in places; inner: good to firm, firm in places”,
so I’m not sure how it will turn out. Limato has firmed up hugely, so I’m taking it that they expect it to
be decent ground without “soft” anywhere. It’s a bit confusing
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