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Totally understand this decision. If you are only a syndicate, one’s budget will necessarily be limited with regards to stallion options and I can certainly understand selling the mare to an operation who have the means to go for some top NH or even staying flat stallions. Even if the new owners wish to race her (there has been little indication from De Bromhead that the mare is no longer sound) I don’t think this should be looked upon negatively.
Me too Colin, there is simply no way that I could ever part with a mare that had won an Arkle and a Champion Chase for me.
In fact I’d probably give her the house while I sleep in the barn!
Admirable sentiments, both.
I wouldn’t profess to know what the mare herself would want but, while the notion of getting knocked up every year and knocking out a foal every year for the rest of her natural might sound a bit dire on a human level, she’s not human and her horsey biological clock might be ticking.
If only horses could talk – actually maybe it’s just as well they can’t!
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"“Waddling around a paddock pregnant half the time does not sound a lot of fun.”
Isn’t that the fate of all top class mares, until their twilight days?
As other posters have said, I do not see the problem here. If the owners want to sell, good luck to them.
I don’t remember any negative reaction when Enable went to stud, ditto any other mare, tbh.
Where is the next generation of racehorses meant to come from?
Delivered by Stork?
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"CAS, it is if they are fertile. I’m just speculating whether a life being pregnant year after year is a particularly enjoyable one. It would be interesting to compare to the frequency of equine pregnancies in the wild, though things such as different habitats and lifespans complicate comparisons.
Sorry, I just think this is a total non-issue.
Is there any reason to believe Put The Kettle On is going to be mistreated or in any way worse off? No.
The Elite Racing Club sold Marsha at auction and John Magnier bought her for about £6 million. Did anyone object to that?
I don’t think anyone has said PTKO is going to be mistreated. Like a few other posters, I don’t think I could part with her, but I respect the right of her owners to sell her, and don’t think that means they don’t care about her.
The chain has got me thinking about the life of a broodmare and whether what is asked of them is reasonable though. I’m not necessarily saying there are concerns, but it is a valid topic to ask questions on.
Is there any sign that broodmares are unhappy?
Personally I think a more serious issue is too few stallions covering too many mares. Or standing injury prone horses like Calyx as stallions.
I do not have any hard evidence but my perception is the thoroughbred is getting weaker as a breed. I believe this is caused by too much in breeding.
When I was first interested in racing, I can seldom recall horses breaking down on the flat. Now it is happening quite frequently.
Totally agree Cork and the main reason that I switched to flat racing from NH after the Dessie Era…but I’m starting to worry.
With just 3 Foundation Stallions responsible for most of the Thoroughbreds running today it’s a fine line to keep revisiting before something has to give.
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...And simply overwatering every track in the country to compensate for perceived increased fragility in the breed is not the answer.
There is no statistical evidence I’m aware of to support any assertion watered ground results in fewer injuries, ditto ground with the word “Firm” in the Going description.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"tbh I can never understand this arguement, Ian.
May be not officially, but I suspect there have been private studies made by authorities.
They just don’t want the public to know how many injuries occur.
…And anyway, I’d have thought it obvious without any “statistical evidence”.Trainers know the softness of ground matters which is a major reason why there are far fewer runners in NH racing when the ground is on the firm side of good. Especially in top class races where the horses are more valuable and therefore less likely to be risked. They know a horse falling on going on the firm side of good has a greater chance of injury or death than when falling on soft – that’s just the nature of the surfaces. If a human fell over he / she would be far more likely to be injured on concrete than on a bog. …And with horses a broken leg means death. Same is true (to obviously a lesser extent) with NH horses on good-firm compared with good-soft.
Actual number of injuries and deaths may well be higher on soft ground than good-firm only because there is far more NH racing on soft. ie The percentage chance of injury / death on good-firm is higher (probably much higher).
Similarly on the flat: You get fewer runners on Hard or Firm than you do on good-firm simply because trainers know the risks. Running on Hard or firm is more dangerous to injury and death / “fragility” of horses legs than racing on good-firm.
The science is there even without full scale data studies.
Personally, in the vast majority of cases I have no problem with watering. However, I do agree there is sometimes a problem with over-watering… which can bring watering into disrepute.
Value Is EverythingWell Chief didn’t win the Champion Chase. Shishkin didn’t win the Champion Chase. Douvan didn’t win the Champion Chase.
Twist Magic didn’t win the Champion Chase.
Un De Sceaux didn’t win the Champion Chase. Kauto Star didn’t win the Champion Chase.Put The Kettle On won the Champion Chase.
Put some respect on her name.
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So don't run, just like the others always do
Put Kettle On highest rating: 160
Well Chief highest rating 177 and didn’t get the Mares’ Allowance.
Shishkin highest rating 177 – no allowance
Twist Magic highest rating 175 – no allowance
Un De Sceaux highest rating 172 – no allowance
Kauto Star highest rating 186 – no allowance and by the way a multiple Gold Cup, King George and Lancashire Chase winnerPut some respect to their names.
Ex RubyLight speaks for me too there.
Put The Kettle On was an admirable mare, but was no superstar in the greater scheme of things.
And that mares allowance is a weapon – very generous compared to the gender allowance on the Flat.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Not going to disagree about the mares’ allowance. But PTKO was definitely not “modest”, which I appreciate has been retracted now!
And presumably you are by some definition a “Champion” if you win the Champion Chase. It’s not your fault if others don’t turn up or the rules say that you can have an allowance.
I can’t think of any specialist 2-mile chase mares who were better than PTKO. Does anyone have any suggestions?
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