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  • #188357
    Aragorn
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    Ginge makes a good point about focussing on particular races.

    I avoid low class handicaps (Anything below class 2 to be honest), any races where horses have no form, so flat maidens, bumpers, juvenile hurdles etc and prefer to bet on animals I know so that my entire judgement is not based on what other people have written.

    At the moment I am on a punting rollercoaster.. Last weekend I had a cracker (Helped massively by the stewards when Alickadoo won) but the previous two weekends drew a complete blank. Prior to that I was on a run of 8 out of 10 bets…

    Confidence I believe is borne out of discipline and knowledge. The more you increase those two things the more successful you will be.

    Having said all that I only bet for fun and only bet what I can afford to lose (Racing is one of my hobby’s after all).. In the last four years it is a hobby that has cost me about £150 which on balance is pretty cheap.

    #188361
    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    Six hours of study ? Phew !

    Six minutes is enough for me. People do tend to over complicate the uncomplicated, I find. Sometimes the blindingly obvious is just that – blindingly obvious !

    Something might be blindingly obvious to be the horse with the best chance of winning. But to find out whether it is value, you have to know about every horse in a race.

    A horse may be 1/3 fav, blindingly obvious the best horse in the race, but there is no point backing it if it only has a 70% (less than 75%) chance of winning.

    Mark

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    #188366
    clivex
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    I do recommend any punter puts in at least 6 hours a day studying to really achieve anything

    This is mental

    For a start, i dread to think what your bedsit looks like and wouldnt dare speculate on your sex life :shock:

    There is a a good expression for this… Paralysis by analysis

    Surely any punter can dismiss whole reams of races before study? Trying to cover everything is madness. How many horses are in training?

    And how much analysis is truely open minded?

    #188368
    clivex
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    1. Know what you are good at i.e. the races in which you are profitable
    2. Take 30 minutes to look through the days cards, and settle on those races which match your "winning" profile
    3. Take as long as you need to study each shortlisted race and satisfy yourself that you have alighted on the best value selection

    Spot on

    I suppose…

    #188371
    Grasshopper
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    I suppose…

    :mrgreen:

    #188372
    Avatar photograysonscolumn
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    No offence Mr Wilson, but if you are betting in every race…. on every card…..every day………then you are essentially a degenerate gambler, and kidding yourself on that you are being clever by devoting study time.

    Quite. Plus, as Gingertipster suggested, 20 minutes per race isn’t going to be enough to do all but a small number of races (four runners or fewer, perhaps) adequate justice.

    If it’s any guide, note that at both the Racing Post and the Sprotsnam, Spotlight writers are / were given an average of just 60 horses to write on, analyse and where applicable compile a tissue for on any given day shift, as many more than that is deemed too much to devote the required time, care and attention to.

    gc

    Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.

    #188374
    Avatar photoDrone
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    How important is having an inflated head of confidence and ego, when one is having a serious punt?

    Confidence in your methods (and hence bets) to the point of arrogance is essential IMO: why put in the work if you’re going to render it pointless by changing your mind or getting cold feet simply because Pricewise, sundry self-appointed ‘experts’ or whoever is of a different opinion. Opinion is all it is – yours pitted against the market

    Self-confident
    Egotistical
    Arrogant
    Stolid
    Stoical
    Aloof
    Remote
    Retiring
    Thick-skinned
    Patient
    Boring
    Level-headed
    Impassive
    Focussed
    Relaxed
    Unhurried

    …any, some, all are characteristics of the succesful punter to a lesser or greater degree

    IMVVHO :wink:

    #188378
    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    Confidence and arrogance probably, ego no. Don’t see why you need that.

    Mark

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    #188379
    Grasshopper
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    You can’t make an omlette, without breaking an ego…………

    #188382
    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    It is possible to form an opinion about the chances of maidens even if they have not run before.

    1. Look at the first time out strike rate of the trainer. And the trainer’s recent form. Is the jockey one who "looks after" first time outers?

    2. Breeding, is it likely to be suited by the distance and even the going?

    3. See it in the paddock, is it green / fit?

    4. See it to post, is it green or pulling? Is it’s action likely to suit the ground conditions?

    Although I have no more than one or two bets on first time out two year olds a season, it can point out positives and negatives. Usually leading to a bet on one of the ones with experience.

    Mark

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    #188385
    Anonymous
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    There is money to be made in every race FACT.

    I dont live in a bedsit you moronic egotistical histerical monostrahtic hysterical sterotypical plonker.

    #188386
    Seagull
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    Mr Wilson,
    My friend would be the first to admit that he has no interest in reading what horse may stay 1 mile or what horse goes best in soft ground.

    He never goes racing but why should he?

    If someone on an Internet site claims that 6 hours per day is needed to find winners there will be plenty that would think that is excessive.

    There can be no dispute that for this year (so far) he probably has made more money than most of us on this site so why should he decide now to start studying form for 6 hours a day?

    #188387
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    There is money to be made in every race FACT.

    I dont live in a bedsit you moronic egotistical histerical monostrahtic hysterical sterotypical plonker.

    Is this libellous? 8)

    #188389
    Anonymous
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    3.30 Towster – High Jack / place bet
    3.40 Haydock – Fredo / place bet

    Good luck if your playing

    #188391
    BennyB
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    Not libellous, Rory, just badly spelt and mildly moronic, like a great deal of his other posts.

    #188394
    Anonymous
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    Easy money

    #188395
    Grasshopper
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    Goodson.

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