Paul Midgley has our rare coloured horse in training

[Ugly Mare]

Hi I am new on here so hello we are the owners of a rare coloured horse that is now in training with Paul Midgley we are really looking forward to seeing him race…..

I do hope you will enjoy seeing him when he goes racing

[excuse me for abbreviating your above post there]…

…he’s like an Indian pony, to me, and we won’t need binoculars to pick this one out
A fine looking horse so I wish you every success which should go without saying, but I fear a future ‘lay of the day’ for our exchange brotherhood…

He reminds me too of another that ran some 10 years or so ago, some might remember, I think by the name of Apache Flower [?] I seem to recall running around Taunton and similar – a modest hurdler of similar colouring.

Should yours have some ability perhaps we will see him in a future Grey Horse handicap, the one at Newmarket this Saturday…? I do hope so, assuming his markings would meet that criteria

[Irish Stamp]

I am a horse owner, and a massive racing fan, and whilst i like the colour of the horse, i have to say it isn’t in keeping with racing.

Some of the very best racehorses we’ve seen over jumps are AQPS, Gaz.

Autre Que Pur Sang

that is, or for the Francophobes among us, ‘Other Than Pure Blood’, or non-thoroughbred. The only problem I have with coloured horses racing is that those we’ve seen so far have been so bleedin’ slow.

Amongst them:

Ronaldo Des Mottes, Sanctuaire, Quevega, Nacarat, Mon Mome, Punchestowns, My Way De Solzen, Qaspal, Oslot, Officier De Reserve, Poquelin etc.

From further back The Fellow as an AQPS as was the great Al Capone.

Also for anyone interested the AQPS association have a different letter for each year. For example:

2000 – M (My Way De Solzen tarts with the letter "M")
2001 – N (Nacarat starts with the letter "N")
2002 – O
2003 – P
2004 – Q
2005 – R
2006 – S
2007 – T
2008 – U
2009 – V

More info can be found at http://www.aqps.fr though most of it is in French.

Love AQPS horses (if you can’t already tell)

[Irish Stamp]

At the risk of boring everyone Quevega’s siblings all follow the above method of naming:

1998 – Kyoto
1999 – Little Vega
2000 – Monvega
2001 – New Vega
2002 – N/A
2003 – N/A
2004 – Quevega
2005 – Rivega
2006 – Sivega
2007 – N/A
2008 – NA
2009 – Vivega.

Apologies for the thread hi-jack.

[CheltenhamSpecialist]

I think he’s lovely, good luck with his career.
I do recall a very unusual loking horse called Roan Rocket, good horse too back in the sixties maybe? I’m sure it was at Ascot that I saw him run, I’m pretty sure he won too, anyone recall him?
He was listed as a Roan but from memory his colour was rather patchy

[conundrum]

Thanks for that explanation Irish. It always puzzled me when I saw some foreign races why all the horses’ names in each race began with the same letter of the alphabet. I just thought you could only enter a particular race if your horse’s name began with a particular letter not realising it was to do with it’s age. When it comes to the letter ‘Z’ I wonder if you could name your horse Zzzzzzz?

[Irish Stamp]

Thanks for that explanation Irish. It always puzzled me when I saw some foreign races why all the horses’ names in each race began with the same letter of the alphabet. I just thought you could only enter a particular race if your horse’s name began with a particular letter not realising it was to do with it’s age. When it comes to the letter ‘Z’ I wonder if you could name your horse Zzzzzzz?

Technicaly that might be true Ken – providing the race is for "AQPS 4yos" then all the horses will begin with the letter S.

[Miss Woodford]

Have you heard about the painted Standardbreds that are racing quite well down in Australia? http://www.skewbaldracingstables.com/index.html Quite a few nice ones in that stable. They’re 100% purebred, of course, the Standardbred breed itself originally formed from the crossing of Thoroughbreds with Narragansett Pacers, Morgans, and Saddlebreds, all of which can (could, in the extinct Pacer’s case) come in just about any color except dun or appaloosa. Oddly, solid-colored STBs seem to have less white face or leg markings than their TB counterparts, but the tobiano and overo genes are still present. I’ve seen plenty of successful roans as well, and there’s a few white/cream STBSs racing in Canada.

Anyway, my point is that just being colorful doesn’t automatically make a slower horse. Unfortunately many breeders focus on unusual patterns over racing ability, and the breeders with quality stock tend to breed for the show ring. The key is mixing the best colored stock with proven racing lines, and then adding more "plain" blood while keeping the color. Paint and Appaloosa breeders improved their racehorses by adding in Quarter Horse blood, so while 50 years ago these horses were scoffed at, nowadays they aren’t much slower than the QHs but still look like Paints and Appies. Eventually the quality of skewbald TBs will get better as well, but it takes time.

[rory]

He reminds me too of another that ran some 10 years or so ago, some might remember, I think by the name of Apache Flower [?] I seem to recall running around Taunton and similar – a modest hurdler of similar colouring.

Apache Flower is correct.

So named because of her unusual markings, with plenty of white about her flank/quarters. Also trained by Stuart Howe, fwiw.

[Angrovestud]

I am learning so much from so many of you I am so amazed by how much knowledge you guys have and I would really like to thank you all for such help and support!
I have been off looking at all the links I have a while ago seen the Australian horses and boy are they fast, it just goes to show colour is nothing to do with speed,
we would not be allowed to do the grey raceing as we dont have the grey gene if we did Rummy brown bits would fade and he would lose his colour he would become a historical coloured meaning he still would be coloured but its hidden.
The French are doing so well Now that really spurs me on as we have a very special boy stallion 3 year old he is a Homozygous Tobiano 7/8th he will throw colour to any mare! and he is the only Stallion Grandson at stud of a TB horse who went show jumping called Sarahs pride he he is as a two year old.
he later went on to win things like this

http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh441/angrovestud/Sarahs%20Pride/sp3.jpg

he is out of a Gunner B mare called Bassetlaw by our stallions sire Captain Maverick
here is our stallion hes going show jumping in 2011 with the owners of his grandsire.

http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh441/angrovestud/pudding/newpuddstrotting.jpg

[Angrovestud]

http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh441/angrovestud/pudding/newpudds1.jpg

and here he is

[conundrum]

Angrovestud, or anyone else please. In the second jumping photo the horse has clearly brought his legs up very tight to the chest. Is that something that comes naturally or does training involve ‘some method’ to persuade it to do that? I only ask because in the past I’ve noticed farriers having to use all their strength to persuade horses to lift and bend their legs less than half the distance shown in the photo.
Thanks
Ken

[Angrovestud]

Angrovestud, or anyone else please. In the second jumping photo the horse has clearly brought his legs up very tight to the chest. Is that something that comes naturally or does training involve ‘some method’ to persuade it to do that? I only ask because in the past I’ve noticed farriers having to use all their strength to persuade horses to lift and bend their legs less than half the distance shown in the photo.
Thanks
Ken

Hi Ken I think thats natural, our own foals do this and so does our stallion Ricco its natural jumping ability. that horse Sarahs pride was sold for 1/2 million dollars to the states! Ricco is by the same sire as Sarah’s Pride Captai Maverick

http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh441/angrovestud/Ricco/riccoscottishsportshorse.jpg

[Angrovestud]

I was so fascinated by the mare Apachee Flower so I went and looked her up with racing post and weatherbys shes done really well and now she also a broodmare 4 progeny
Flareon ire by brave act 03
Mongonel by Beckeit 04
and 2 unnamed 07 & 08
wonder what they are doing now and if she passed on any colour.

[Angrovestud]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7_TUYR7P3Y

I have got the latest video of rummy on the gallops taken on the 28 sept 2010 hes going very well Pauls done a great job with him.

[Angrovestud]

updated photos on 9/10/10 overtaking Lava steps on the gallops

http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh441/angrovestud/Patch/rummylav4.jpg

http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh441/angrovestud/Patch/rummylava5.jpg

http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh441/angrovestud/Patch/rummylava6.jpg

[Pompete]

….overtaking Lava steps on the gallops

From what I’ve seen of Lava Steps this year, Steptoe’s horse could have overtaken her on the gallops

Seriously, nice pics and any news on the big day – the racecourse debut?

[jose1993]

I hope when this horse makes it début he runs on an ATR track and Chapman’s in the booth. Comedy TV will be assured, regardless of the performance.

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