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- July 19, 2022 at 18:39 #1607798
No ging
It’s because these are locations used for monitoring weather very accurately because they have to. The infrastructure is there
Same with botanic gardens. Wisely and Kew are always cited not Richmond and weybridge
Hampton because of the huge waterworks
July 19, 2022 at 18:40 #1607799You’ll be fine at the airport
As long as you strap a packet of frozen peas to the inside of your boxer shorts
By the time you take off they will be at the perfect temperature to add to the tiny meal added to the price of your flightGaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
July 19, 2022 at 18:53 #1607803No, I’m with GT – I’m keeping away from airports and aircraft generally.
No more throwing buns at those big metal birds of heat – they never eat them anyway.
There must be somewhere in Britain that never has an aircraft fly overhead where I can safely hide in a fridge?
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"July 19, 2022 at 18:55 #1607804Most (possibly all) airfields have weather stations: Benson, Northolt and City of London in the vicinity of Heathrow; Cranwell, Waddington and Scampston near Coningsby. All recorded similar maxima with Heathrow and Coningsby, on this occasion, just pipping it
A decent enough sample size I reckon that doesn’t justify your claim that records from airfields are ‘outliers’
That’s it
July 19, 2022 at 18:58 #160780629 weather stations today recorded readings in excess of the previous record.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"July 19, 2022 at 19:14 #1607809“strap a packet of frozen peas to the inside of your boxer shorts”
Frozen peas? He’ll have his own tiny sausage to go with his tiny meal.
July 19, 2022 at 19:18 #1607810Everyone will be delighted to hear the temperature has plummeted to 17 degrees amid rain and breeze here Chez Chezza in Hampshire.
I’m assuming the local Met Office reading wasn’t taken in the vicinity of any form of airfield.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"July 19, 2022 at 23:22 #1607838So it is just coincidence that:
Charlwood – which is very near to the end of the runway of the econd biggest British Airpost – was the hottest place in the whole of Britain…
Only to be overtaken by Heathrow – where Britain’s largest airport is…
Which was then overtaken by Conningsby – where there’s RAF conningsby airport…
And the hottest place in Wales is Hawarden – where there’s another RAF Hawarden airport…
And the hottest place in Scotland is Charterhall – where there just so happens to be RAF Charterhall airport.
There are thousands of places in the UK which have these temperature gauges. The small hamlet I used to live in – Upper Chute in Wiltshire – even had one for a long time.
To think it is just a coincidence that all of these hottest temperatures (and othes near airports) is only a coincidence is improbable considering the number of places temperature are officially recorded.
The Mett Office describes ideal and undesirable sites as:
“Ideal site
Level ground.No trees; buildings, or steep ground nearby that might influence the measurements.
Undesirable site
Warming effect of buildings on the measurement of temperatureSheltering or shading effects of trees on the measurement of sunshine and wind.
Frost hollow where overnight temperatures on still clear nights may be far lower than at neighbouring locations.
Top of a hill or steep escarpment where winds will be unrepresentative of the wider area”
If all of those things can influence temperatures…Do they not think airports / planes flying past could influence temperature?
.For someone who works with probabilities all the time, this looks an extremely unlikely coincidence.
Value Is EverythingJuly 20, 2022 at 06:29 #1607848Let’s not forget that flying is a contributory factor to global warming anyway.
July 20, 2022 at 07:37 #1607849One cannot prove beyond doubt that the occurrence of highest temperatures and locations of airports are/ are not coincidental. But the terrain around such places and the high quality of the measuring equipment are maybe not so coincidental, Cambridge airport perhaps being the clincher.
But for clarity, the highest authority on the matter must go to the great man himself,
Mr Coward.
Drone a close (and always rational) second and gingertipster out with the washing and the also rans….July 20, 2022 at 08:58 #1607852Ffs ging
I had connections with aerospace many years back. Took steps towards being a pilot
As richard says Cambridge airport is extremely quiet (due to close) and just small private props planes. Little Cessnas are not going to change the air temperature over a few square mile and nor frankly is a 737
RAF hawarden has virtually no activity
RAF fighter stations are nearly always completely inert. It costs a fortune to fly each practice sortee and even stations for transport such as bribe Norton will have no more than a handful of movements a day
July 20, 2022 at 11:46 #1607857“Let’s not forget that flying is a contributory factor to global warming anyway”.
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That is part of my thinking Glad’.
Flying may well be a greater contributory factor to global warming than even the “experts” thought.
Value Is EverythingJuly 20, 2022 at 12:04 #1607858And it well may be less too
Anyway. Now that that nonsense is sealed a great story from the industry. Heard this a couple of times. H
Harriers used to be built in Kingston very near me (I actually once attended a harrier base for the day meeting the pilots who were in the top 2% of raf pilots. And no not one plane moved all day) and they were sold to the us navy. A famous export success
When pitching a us navy general came over to test the plane. Imagine a cigar chomping patten type
He was at the base and said “I want to fly it now”
“No no no. Sorry but it takes months of training. Very difficult sir”
Threw a wobbly and insisted and with order on line they gave him the basics
Got in tbe harrier and cocked up completely. Instead of vertical the nose just went in tbe air whereupon he panicked and pressed the ejector seat
Smack into the side of a brick hanger. Splat like tom and jerry
They had to scrape him off and send him home in a matchbox. Covered up as a heart attack. To this day apparently
July 20, 2022 at 12:46 #1607861“Ffs ging
I had connections with aerospace many years back. Took steps towards being a pilot
As richard says Cambridge airport is extremely quiet (due to close) and just small private props planes. Little Cessnas are not going to change the air temperature over a few square mile and nor frankly is a 737
RAF hawarden has virtually no activity
RAF fighter stations are nearly always completely inert. It costs a fortune to fly each practice sortee and even stations for transport such as bribe Norton will have no more than a handful of movements a day”.
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These temperatures are rightly not averages, Clive. Does not matter if the use is infrequent. These are momentary highest spikes, so one artificial spike can be the temperature recorded.
As for RAF Hawarden having “virtually no activity”…
According to Wikipedia:
“There is MUCH private AND general activity at the airport, adding CONSIDERABLY to the number of aircraft movements. Operators include Aviation Park Group, which provides air taxi and charter services, MerseyFlight Air Training School,[10] North Wales Military Air Services (NWMAS) and National Police Air Service base a Eurocopter EC135 Helicopter at the airport. Also operating from Hawarden Airport is Williams Aviation Ltd,[11] which offers private jet charter”.That does not sound like “virtually no activity” to me.
The Cambridge temperature came – like Kew Gardens – from their Botanic Gardens which is also pretty much in line with a runway. Cambridge City airport is close to the Botanic Gardens, with Cambridge Railway Station between the two also a contributing factor to temperatures in the locality. Cambridge Botanic Gardens also state that when temperatures are high: “The team get the glasshouses ventilated as much as they can and try to get a good air flow through, to cool them down”. This hotter air must then go into the surrounding area. Presumably Kew does the same. Having temperatures taken from Botanical Gardens in these circumstances seems pretty dodgy to me.
Value Is EverythingJuly 20, 2022 at 13:02 #1607862You are nuts
Cessnas helicopters and training aircraft give off about the same as a car ffs
Now it’s railways ????
Honestly. I’m a member at Kew and go there a lot. The idea that every time someone opens the door of the palm house the surrounding acres spike in temperature is bonkers
July 20, 2022 at 13:08 #1607863If you poked a thermometer up my dung trumpet at the moment it would be close to the record!
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I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highwaysJuly 20, 2022 at 13:39 #1607868“Honestly. I’m a member at Kew and go there a lot. The idea that every time someone opens the door of the palm house the surrounding acres spike in temperature is bonkers”.
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It’s not just opening one door, Clive.
…And that hot air must go to the surrounding area and I am only on about it making the difference of a degree or so.Value Is Everything - AuthorPosts
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