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  • #14525
    davidjohnson
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    A shameful episode. The BHA really should have someone to say horses can’t run under such circumstances.

    Anyone that hasn’t seen what happened, he basically did a circuit as he bolted beforehand and unsurprisingly was knackered a circuit out.

    #285330
    Avatar photoKen(West Derby)
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    For anyone who backed it prior to its antics then the writing was on the wall before they started. However, for those who had backed something else it felt like manna from heaven knowing there would be no rule 4 and it increased the chances of their horse winning.

    #285331
    clivexx
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    An absolute disgrace …. and why did the trainer want it to run anyway?

    Or can we guess…..

    I suspect this will need some close examination. Even the inital loss of irons…

    …enough said

    #285333
    davidjohnson
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    It gets better. The starter lets them go for the 4.40 at Warwick as the rider of Owl FC is just getting back in the saddle at the start.

    #285340
    Nick Baker
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    That’s racing unfortunately. It’s not great if its you, but there but for the grace etc etc. But some starters do have a lot to answer for.

    #285342
    clivexx
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    Very good stuff from Graham Cunningham on RUK. again RUK excel themselves in their analysis and opinions

    But cannot accpet "thats racing" Nick….

    #285343
    davidjohnson
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    That’s racing unfortunately.

    Sorry but I completely refute this. Racing is about giving all horses and equal chance under the conditions to run to the best of their abilities. What happened with Nevertika meant that horse was never allowed to do so. Owls FC was withdrawn as it turned out so at least no-one lost money on the horse, but it was poor PR that it wasn’t clear until after the race that the horse was withdrawn. There should be a procedure in place where any horses that are withdrawn at the start, such information should be made available to the public via the PA system beforehand.

    #285346
    BennyB
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    Didn’t see the race, but from what you say it reminds me of my first ever visit to a racecourse.

    Being a fresh-faced and naive twelve-year-old, I had persuaded my parents to let me call a tipping line beforehand, and it tipped a horse called General Sir Peter – I backed it on course (or should I say my parents did!) at 9-1 I think.

    The horse bolted and completed a full circuit of the track before the race. Instead of being withdrawn it ran, and dead heated for first place.

    Surely it should be up to connections to assess whether a horse is fit to run in these situations?

    #285347
    clivexx
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    Benny, the problem was that they did leave it to connections who wanted to run a well backed horse that would clearly now have no chance of winning…

    I dont agree that it should be left to them to decide. You can understand the reasons why…

    #285348
    davidjohnson
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    Surely it should be up to connections to assess whether a horse is fit to run in these situations?

    I really don’t think it should, as I don’t think they are in the best position to judge as to whether the horse is in a state to do itself justice. It was clear from the television pictures that Nevertika had got himself into a right sweat and that he was still fractious and buzzy once he’d been caught.

    #285361
    Irish Stamp
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    Very good stuff from Graham Cunningham on RUK. again RUK excel themselves in their analysis and opinions

    But cannot accpet "thats racing" Nick….

    One of the few journalists who actually tells it how it is.

    Interesting drift on Ukrainian Star prior to his dismal effort this afternoon.

    #285372
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    Have to agree with David on this. I was a huge fan of Nevertika when he was with the Waltons. He’d probably pick that lot up and carry them if he was right but no horse can bolt, go a circuit then be expected to be at his best.

    I never saw the race, had a bet or saw the incident but my own feeling are if they bolt and go anymore than a furlong the starter in the interest of the betting public should eliminate them.

    Plus if they come under starters orders and the start is delayed by an incident like this, the under starters orders should be made void. Then fresh start called and anything eliminated or withdrawn should be deemed a non runner.

    #285373
    Kopwas
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    I’m amazed at Ewart. I have been to the yard and talked with him and hold him in high regard,to the extent at looking at getting involved in a horse there. The yard know the time of day with handicaps and horses they fancy are well supported. Nevertika was today. After the horse bolted and went through the rail I couldn’t believe he let it run. I mean he was there, leading the horse back to race. I got the impression he was angry with Harry Haynes so maybe he lost his head, I don’t know. But in fairness to the horse as well as the punters who had supported it (including the yard’s supporters) he got it very very wrong.

    #285381
    davidjohnson
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    I can’t believe it was stable money behind the horse today given he still took part. Given that a promient tipster with a history of ensuring prices get cut rapidly selected the horse, I wonder if connections didn’t mind letting him run today because they had missed the price.

    #285423
    Avatar photorich1985
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    It was Hugh Taylor’s pick this morning, and invariably, all of his picks get supported in the market.

    #285437
    Kopwas
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    It was Hugh Taylor’s pick this morning, and invariably, all of his picks get supported in the market.

    Not so much recently due to his poor run. The price had dropped before his column was up.

    #285451
    Caper
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    Solved a mystery for me, I live in Canada and layed Nevertika before it started to drift alarmingly. Can’t believe what I now know transpired. Sorry for those who backed it at 4.3.

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