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Who said anything about discovering him?
I think you’re looking for something that isn’t there tbh. It’s a bit precious from you both tbh.
Wherever Samcro goes, the others from Ire will go to the Supreme, minus maybe Next Destination.
People calling for Samcro to go to the Champion…itll never happen….to be fair, its hard to know whats hes beat in the Deloitte, probably a lot of very good horses, but none of the level of The New One or Buveur D’air yet…
Do people really think Elliot is going to risk a defeat by going to the Champion?
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!Pity that there’s no multiquote facility on these forums (or, at least, not one that I can find) but your overall tone throughout this thread is “Look at me! I’m so clever because I spotted this wonder horse first!” In fact, your previous post on this page even contained the words “my bandwagon” (which you’ve subsequently edited).
You’re the one who is being precious here, not us. It really is quite puerile and disappointing from an otherwise (in my humble opinion) good poster.
I haven’t edited the post on this page. If you edit a post, it comes up underneath what the edit is. I’ve not touched it. It’s obviously not ‘my bandwagon’. My ‘is anyone going against me now’ post was only a light hearted comment. Thlugh I apologise if it comes across badly.
Appreciate the kind words and I’ll take your advice on board if it comes across as though I’ve been ‘look at me’ in this thread. That’s a shame as that clearly wasn’t my intention. Even if that has accidentally been the case, I don’t think it justifies more abuse from Judge.
Once again, apologies if I’ve been a bit of an idiot.
No worries.
Anyway, I’m sure we can all agree that Samcro is going to take some beating in this race.
My each-way alternative would be Santini but Henderson has stated that that one is more likely to line up in the Albert Bartlett, his reasoning being that the further he went last time, the better he looked. Surely that reasoning applies to the same trainer’s On The Blind Side? In fact, I’d say that the latter looks the stronger stayer and should be going for the three-miler.
I’m really struggling to see a bet in this race at the prices. One of the most stale and solid win markets of the entire meeting.
I’d take On The Blind Side in a match bet against Next Destination at 10/11 or bigger but that will have to wait until the day of the race.
I think Next Destination has some really good form in the book; in his weakest performance of the season so far, LTO, he beat Duc De Genievres by 4L over 2 mile 4. Samcro beat the same horse by 5L over 2 miles. Next Destination has beaten Jetz, Cracking Smart and Paloma Blue, some of them more than once. He has course form with his Bumper run from last year. I think Next Destination in the beting without Samcro market at 6/4 is a solid bet.
Another big-name horse is out of the Festival. On The Blind Side, trainer only hopeful he’ll run again this season. Makes about 9 or 10 late notable absentees now.
An utter nonsense that an industry of our size with a multi-billon £ betting market accepts that non runner notifications are mostly made through bookie’s blogs, with a sprinkling from preview panels. I didn’t bet OTBS or anything else affected, but the lack of a formal BHA structure for this is an absolute joke.
Agree Joe, watched the BF preview tonight and Paul Nicholls comes out with ” Movewiththetimes goes for the plate on Thursday now ”
The last two days MWTT has been backed from 33/1 to 8/1 for the Plate across the boards and then he announces it at a bookies preview two days later.
It’s worked out in my benefit from a financial point, but it absolutely stinks. Could be just a coincidence like
It stinks? I like transparency as much as the next man but JP can run his horses in whatever he wants, what have they done wrong?
OTBS was a weird one and Hendo has previous for this but not sure you can police this thing 100%. Who knows when he knew, when he was able to get hold of connections etc.
Rumours about On The Blind Side were coming out as early as two weeks ago. Yet another very poor show from Nicky Henderson.
It stinks? I like transparency as much as the next man but JP can run his horses in whatever he wants, what have they done wrong?
Of course connections can run a horse where they want. Of course they should be told before the general public. But the delay in releasing information and then releasing it through a Bookies PR event when a definite decision has been made, does not seem good PR.
Even now you can back MWTT on the exchanges and with firms who are not NRNB and it’s a non runner.
The guy from Betfair was sat right next to him when he told everyone
So it’s now Nicholls’ job to tell punters exacting which JP horse runs in which handicap? You’re a mile off if you think that should be the case.
He didn’t realise information unprompted, he was asked a question and answered it.
So it’s now Nicholls’ job to tell punters exacting which JP horse runs in which handicap? You’re a mile off if you think that should be the case.
He didn’t realise information unprompted, he was asked a question and answered it.
Kev, it is not a question of telling people which race a horse is going to run in.
If a trainer, prompted or otherwise says a horse will not run in a race and a rep of the largest bookmaker is sat next to him, surely they should not accept bets on that horse after that disclosure.
Even if it is a temporary measure, they should be straight on the blower to head office to suspend any bets taken on the horse because it is in the public domain, and anyone backing that horse cannot possibly win.
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