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I tend to agree plus I think Mullins, the master at picking winnable races for his horses, might find avoiding Samcro – who is likely aimed at this – all too tempting.
What did people making of Poli Roi’s performance? From having been out the back he went charging quickly to the lead two out and then just emptied almost as quickly. Very odd. Nice turn of foot but a baffling finish. Perhaps the ground was too heavy for him too.
I may have pressed the report button on CNC’s post above by mistake. Since the recent updates, my IPad has been driving me nuts.
Mullins will find Graded races for most of his horses rated in the 135-145 band. Most horses can’t progress into the mid 150s, which is usually what is required to win at the festival.
Lol. Thanks MarkTT. You made me panic for a moment -I re-read my post and was somewhat confused about what it was that I had written that could be considered offensive. I thought for a moment you might be one of Willie Mullins inside team and found my quip about Mullins unfair.
Samcro drifted to 6/1 on the exchanges earlier today. Apparently due to a ‘bad scope’ he will miss his next intended target apparently.
Little bit worryingOnly a minor issue apparently.
He’s the banker of the festival let’s be honest. Wins on the bridle if turning up.
Banker of the festival? I’m not sure about that. Better than Apple’s Jade or Buveir D’air? Or CoC?
Hahahaha. People said that about Denman, Boston Bob, Death Duty etc etc etc.
He’s good but he’s in the toughest division of the three Novice races.
I didn’t. In fact I said on here Death Duty would be beaten on numerous occasions in the lead up to his defeat.
The only banker of the festival I’ve said in the last three years was Altior last year and Faugheen for his 2014 Neptune. Both won. And so will Samcro.
As I said on page 1 of this thread, the ‘to win any race’ market was made for him as he could’ve gone to any of the three. However, from this point, I’d be suprised if he doesn’t go to the Neptune and win easily.
Think On The Blind Side would be better for the Albert Bartlett and If The Cap Fits (who I’ve been on all season for ‘any race’) would be better in the supreme.
As always, I’ll come on this thread if I’m wrong and hold my hands up. But I just can’t see the horse not winning. In fact, I expect him to be 7/4 for the 2019 JLT straight after he wins the Neptune.
You also said after Thistlecrack won the King George that you could see him going unbeaten for the remainder of his career.
That Alpha Des Obeaux would win the RSA if he stayed up. In fact, you repeatedly claimed you were stealing money from the bookies and that he’d win, despite the bleeding issue. He ran his race and was beaten
And? I didn’t realise this was a forum just for people who win every time.
At least I admit when I’m wrong. Rather than just brush it under the carpet and carry on like some on here. Or spend the entire time sitting on the fence offering no opinion either way.
I actually said that the bleeding issue was my biggest fear with ADO by the way. I believed, like the trainer, it was a one off. It’s been proved since to be an issue they can’t solve.
At the end of the day, If even one of my antepost big bets wins a year (One For Arthur last year and September for the Oaks this year), that’s all that matters. You seem to have an issue that my 25/1 or higher antepost horses don’t win every time.
Where have I said that ? Where on Earth did the 25-1 come from ? Stop making claims about what I’ve said which simply aren’t true.
I pointed out Alpha Des Obeaux because you claimed to have only made two such banker bets at the festival recently, stating that they both won.
ADO was never a banker bet!
He was a huge price. Of course he was never a banker bet.
I thought he was a good bet at the huge price though.
You’ve spoiled for a row lately and I have no idea why?
It’s true that there were a lot of alpha des obeaux fans on this forum last year which I couldn’t understand. I pointed out before the RSA that he was hardly a banker and he was on the small side and prone to bleeding. God I’m a genius as well
and he wasn’t that huge a price? I thought he was one of the favourites. and the way some of the people talked about him on this forum, they clearly thought he was a BANKER. you don’t have to be a short price to be a banker.As for Samcro winning on the bridle, well a dirty scope only two and a half months before the festival is worrying, and I always feel that with the irish novices they tend to bully weak fields on bog-deep ground over the winter, but on quicker ground with the pace they go at cheltenham it’s a totally different ball game.
He will have to be exceptional to win this on the snaff. He has looked a bit of a monster so far though- Gordon Eliot had a similar type last year with death duty, that was similarly hyped but to be completely honest Samcro has looked even more visually impressive than that one was.
It’s true that there were a lot of alpha des obeaux fans on this forum last year which I couldn’t understand. I pointed out before the RSA that he was hardly a banker and he was on the small side and prone to bleeding. God I’m a genius as well 😉 and he wasn’t that huge a price? I thought he was one of the favourites. and the way some of the people talked about him on this forum, they clearly thought he was a BANKER. you don’t have to be a short price to be a banker.
As for Samcro winning on the bridle, well a dirty scope only two and a half months before the festival is worrying, and I always feel that with the irish novices they tend to bully weak fields on bog-deep ground over the winter, but on quicker ground with the pace they go at cheltenham it’s a totally different ball game.
He will have to be exceptional to win this on the snaff. He has looked a bit of a monster so far though- Gordon Eliot had a similar type last year with death duty, that was similarly hyped but to be completely honest Samcro has looked even more visually impressive than that one was.
He went off about 6/1 I believe but he was between 16/1 and 25/1 when me and Zarkava first mentioned him.
Didn’t see him as a banker (though I thought the each way part of that bet was a brilliant one). Unfortunately he finished 1 place outside the placings.
As someone who’s been on Samcro for many months on the any race market (see page 1), it’s interesting that Next Destination is running here.
I personally think both ND and On the Blind side would be better suited to the Albert Bartlett. Samcros cruising speed looks incredible.
The comparisons I’m reading in the media between him and Death duty are bizarre. They’re two completely different horses and, other than both being owned by Gigginstown and are Irish, bear no resemblance to me.
Death Duty was winning races in Ireland but was grinding them out. Samcro is having them beat with two furlongs to run every single time.
I agree MOM: Samcro is in another league altogether versus Death Duty. He looks much more of an athlete and I’m sure he’ll be even better over fences.
Just looking down one of the trickiest races of the Festival trying to find something that could run into a place at a decent price for Vtc’s TRF v Pricewise compy, I stumbled across Six Year Old Someday trained by Jessica Harrington who is out of Black Sam Bellamy by a mare out of Teeneso and generally available at 50/1 with Paddy Power.
Although he may not be up to the class of some of the other runners, he ran a decent race to be 2nd to Next Destination at Naas last November and at Fairyhouse on the 2nd December he fell when about to contest the lead in the race won by Discorama. His last race he was sent off 9/4 favourite at Leopardstown but couldn’t manage to make an impression on Dicey O’Reilly and Mortal who just held him off for 2nd spot.
Seems to do nothing but try and looks like he could gain himself a place in this one at a big price. Wouldn’t want the ground to be much softer than Good though.
Good Luck .. Jac 
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and he wasn’t that huge a price? I thought he was one of the favourites. and the way some of the people talked about him on this forum, they clearly thought he was a BANKER. you don’t have to be a short price to be a banker.
Good Luck .. Jac 
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