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Cue Card and Flemenstar set to go head to head at Aintree then both look set for a match with Sprinter Sacre in Ireland.
Flemenstar’s popularity probably means yet again Cue Card will go off a soft price, get the feeling people think Flemenstar is in a different league at 2m4f but will get a shock when they see how good Cue Card is and is probably my bet if he goes off at 5/2 needs heavily backed at that price.
Maybe 1/1 Flemenstar, 7/4 Cue Card is more realistic though.
I continue to believe Flemenstar is overrated. He has done all of his winning in the early part of the season when fully fit against horses who had bigger targets ahead.
Saying that, Cue Card has been described as a very lean, athletic type by his trainer. He believes that Cue Card might struggle to deal with short gaps between races.
Perhaps it will be worth taking them both on. It all depends upon what turns up in opposition.
Sprinter Sacre looks to be aimed here.
Very interesting.
Could be Sprinter Sacre’s toughest test to date, further than usual up against it with the poor record Cheltenham winners have at Aintree. Could be up against Cue Card who gave him arguably his toughest race to date & Flemenstar who missed the festival but was fancied.
I hope Sprinter Sacre doesn’t turn out for this race, he’s nothing to prove. This is a tough call for any horse that has already run his heart out at Cheltenham, Cue Card included and I’m thinking back to One Man here.
I’m sure Nicky Henderson won’t run him if there are any doubts and the same with gallant little Cue Card and connections.Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...I hope Sprinter Sacre doesn’t turn out for this race, he’s nothing to prove. This is a tough call for any horse that has already run his heart out at Cheltenham, Cue Card included and I’m thinking back to One Man here.
I’m sure Nicky Henderson won’t run him if there are any doubts and the same with gallant little Cue Card and connections.Nothing to prove? Bizarre statement.
How about proving he is the best over 2m 4f as well as 2m?
I don’t think my statement was in any way ‘Bizarre’ PC.
Why should Sprinter Sacre run over a distance which will probably not suit him, I don’t want to see him do that.
We have lost too many good horses at Aintree because they have run another hard race after winning at Cheltenham, why can’t people celebrate Sprinter Sacre for what he is a Champion 2 Miler.
I stand by my comment that he has nothing to prove and that’s in my own personal opinion, in yours he obviously has a long way to go.
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...I would be very excited to see sprinter sacre turn up at aintree. He’s a modern day superstar and Nicky is right to search out his full potential. He hardly had a race at Cheltenham and it would be a real shame to tuck him away at 7 years old for four races a season.
Imagine if Kauto had been limited to 2m his whole career after winning the tingle creek. We have never seen sprinter sacre even close to the limit of his ability, give him the chance to build a legacy rather than be another quevaga plundering a weak division, albeit weak through horses stepping up to avoid him. Give em nowhere to hide Nicky, take the fight to them.
I don’t think my statement was in any way ‘Bizarre’ PC.
Why should Sprinter Sacre run over a distance which will probably not suit him, I don’t want to see him do that.
We have lost too many good horses at Aintree because they have run another hard race after winning at Cheltenham, why can’t people celebrate Sprinter Sacre for what he is a Champion 2 Miler.
I stand by my comment that he has nothing to prove and that’s in my own personal opinion, in yours he obviously has a long way to go.
A long way to go? In my opinion, he has about 2.5 miles to go in proving himself the best 2.5m Chaser in training.
Is being the best 2m and 2.5m Chaser in training a better achievement than being the best 2m Chaser in training? Yes it is.
Your statement about horses perishing because of running at both Aintree and Cheltenham is guesswork, and in my opinion, bullshine.
PC As I said in my post I was particularly remembering One Man in that statement an old favourite of mine who I always remember when the Melling Chase is run, it is not a favourite race of mine.
My love of horses goes beyond guesswork and I’m sorry if you feel that way about my comments but respect your opinion.
I hope Sprinter Sacre runs the race of his life and proves that he does perform well beyond the 2 miles and comes home sound and safe, that is all we can ask of him..
JacThings turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...Dunno how Flemenstar is priced up at 4’s and Cue Card 7’s, could be a toteplace lump on Cue Card.
Regarding Sprinter Sacre and having to race at both Cheltenham and Aintree, I don’t see a problem at all. A hard race might leave a mark, especially if a horse were stepping up in trip and perhaps facing heavy ground. I don’t consider that Sprinter Sacre HAD a race at Cheltenham, that was as good as a schooling session and I am sure his jumping will help conserve energy. Decent horses though Cue Card and Flemenstar are, they are fighting for the forecast spot if the mighty one turns up.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
As a racing fan i really want to see sprinter sacre,flemenstar and cue card in the line up for this race.
I see PPower go 7 Cue Card and 4 Flemenstar – it should be the other way round in my book and even with 6 runners, I think Cue Card is well worth an EW bet.
Flemenstar’s connections have (albeit some time ago) said that he might not react well to travelling. He is 2lbs inferior to Cue Card on official ratings. He did not finish off his race last time, with connections blaming a lung infection. He has been in just two close battles and lost them. Cue Card has been in one when he went down by a nose to the Gold Cup winner to whom he was conceding half a stone.
It’s a monster task for Cue Card to beat Sprinter Sacre, but he should not be a 7/1 chance to do so in what is effectively a 3 horse race imo.
After his Cheltenham display, I’d want to see SS put in an error-free round before considering him a betting proposition at 1/4 in any race, let alone a hot Melling Chase. I’ve a feeling that the QM took much more out of Sprinter Sacre than some might think. BG had no trouble pulling him up (Sizing Europe took longer to pull up). And I believe SS’s jumping style uses up a fair bit of energy.
We shall see. Let’s hope all three turn up.
I see PPower go 7 Cue Card and 4 Flemenstar – it should be the other way round in my book and even with 6 runners, I think Cue Card is well worth an EW bet.
Flemenstar’s connections have (albeit some time ago) said that he might not react well to travelling. He is 2lbs inferior to Cue Card on official ratings. He did not finish off his race last time, with connections blaming a lung infection. He has been in just two close battles and lost them. Cue Card has been in one when he went down by a nose to the Gold Cup winner to whom he was conceding half a stone.
It’s a monster task for Cue Card to beat Sprinter Sacre, but he should not be a 7/1 chance to do so in what is effectively a 3 horse race imo.
After his Cheltenham display, I’d want to see SS put in an error-free round before considering him a betting proposition at 1/4 in any race, let alone a hot Melling Chase. I’ve a feeling that the QM took much more out of Sprinter Sacre than some might think. BG had no trouble pulling him up (Sizing Europe took longer to pull up). And I believe SS’s jumping style uses up a fair bit of energy.
We shall see. Let’s hope all three turn up.
I agree that Cue Card is the bigger danger, with there being far more questions regarding Flemenstar. I also dislike the way they have farted around with the tactics on Flemenstar. I am officially giving the horse the Caution semi-squiggle for reliability.
With your obvious Cue Card hat and scarf on, I think you are looking with wishful thinking regarding Sprinter Sacre question marks from the Queen Mother. The report on the race reads "drew clear on the bit after next, impressive" and to my eyes he was easy to pull up because he was not extended and BG could, effectively, have been pulling him up from the second last onwards.
I’d be more worried about how strong Cue Card’s form actually is. I don’t think he beat a good field in the Ryanair with First Lieutenant, now on a losing run of nine, going off a false and eminently beatable favourite before leading home a chasing pack full of over the hill and/or struggling for form horses.
As I have said before I like Cue Card and although I predicted he wouldn’t get the trip in the King George, I backed him on his next two runs when I thought things were right for him. This is a different challenge altogether though. Can you really say that anything that finished behind Cue Card in the Ryanair could even begin to get Sprinter Sacre off the bridle?
I hope they all take their places, it would make for an interesting race but, like the movie Highlander:-
"There can be only one"
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Jac
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