Melbourne Cup 2006

[wit]

Tawqeet wins Caulfield Cup for Sh. Hamdan, David Hayes says Melbourne Cup next :

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<br>SMH goes gooey over Francesca Cumani:

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<br>….and a piece on Kieren:

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<br>best regards

wit

[deltaman]

Hi Wit,<br>        6 horses in the past 25 years have gone into the Melbourne Cup with two penalties but none have finished in the placings……..Tawqeet…….Lay!

[wit]

hi deltaman

…and in 145 years, its only gone twice to an international challenger, both trained by dermot weld.

must be a local again – unless Delta Blues for jpn ?

best regards

wit

[Gigginstown Man]

Hi guys …I’m down here..Was in Caulfield saturday…If Taasqueet wins the cup it will be 3 grade ones in a month..Hardly Gonna happen..Yeats is a better horse than any other in the race.Mr.Fallon is a far superior rider to the Oz jockeys too.He rides tomorrow in the Geelong cup.I am going to do my best ta meet him..

[wit]

hi GM

good stuff – let us know how it goes.

Fallon doesn’t seem to see the "three races in a month" aspect as that much of a deal:

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…While acknowledging that Yeats is the best horse in the Melbourne Cup, Fallon believes the topweight is not going to find it easy after watching the Caulfield Cup first-hand.

"The way they seem to race here is not going to suit him because he needs a strong tempo all the way," Fallon said.

"He’s not the sort of horse you can stop and start like they do here and I won’t be riding him that way.

"No wonder they can run in the Caulfield Cup or that race on Derby day (the Mackinnon) and then back up in the Melbourne Cup because they hardly have a blow-out," he said.<br><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

http://www.theage.com.au/news/horse-rac … 08587.html

<br>….and then there’s David Hayes eyeing up that AUD 500,000 bonus for hitting all three with Tawqeet:

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The Metropolitan was sailing close to the wind, with demotion from group 1 to group 2 level a real possibility, but the Australian Jockey Club took action to revive the long-standing race and it appears to have worked.

In 2001, it reduced its distance from 2600 to 2400 metres and last year brought in a tempting bonus incentive: $250,000 extra if the Metropolitan winner went on to win the Caulfield Cup and/or Melbourne Cup, and $500,000 extra if it won all three.

The bonus quickly went off when Railings won the Metropolitan and Caulfield Cup last year, and this year, Tawqeet has the first bonus in the bank, with a shot at another $250,000 in two weeks’ time.

The previous horse to win the Metropolitan-Caulfield Cup double before these two was Hayai in 1983. And the Metropolitan-Melbourne Cup double has proven even more elusive in modern times: not since Macdougal in 1959 has a horse won both races in the same year.

But the times, and races, are changing.

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http://www.theage.com.au/news/horse-rac … 63501.html

<br>best regards

wit

[wit]

hi M

it really depends what you mean by "grand scheme of things".

purists can look at past results and current entries and note that its a handicap and open to geldings

http://www.vrc.net.au/cpa/htm/htm_mcc_c … ent_id=773

<br>the Aus public can look to Makybe Diva like the UK public looked to Red Rum.

I guess anyone (Aus or otherwise) starts with it being an international race with an AUD 3m first prize and "a 145-year old social and cultural tradition that literally brings Australia to a standstill", and then applies their own perspective.

<br>….meanwhile, in Saturday’s Cox Plate, Fallon is jocked onto outsider Aqua D’Amore by "Irish-based breeding giant Coolmore Stud"

http://www.smh.com.au/news/horseracing/ … 21983.html

<br>best regards

wit

(Edited by wit at 9:00 pm on Oct. 24, 2006)

[Gigginstown Man]

Australia thinks everything here is more important than anything anywhere else in the world….Cocky shower of ****
ers but we will quieten them this year…

[Anonymous]

GM<br> Do you really think that Yeats can win it?<br> KF is already expressing concerns about the ‘stop, go’ nature of the race, and has seemed reluctant in the past to make ithe pace on him.<br> If he does pull it off – and I sincerely hope he does – it will take a masterful ride in the circumstances, though he is certainly (imo) the man for the job.

[deltaman]

Wit,<br>      Who won the Geelong Cup  please, I’m trying to make up a short list.  many thanks in advance.

[wit]

hi deltaman

Race 8 – $150,000 Petstock Geelong Cup – 2400m<br>Group 3 race

1st MANDELA (NZ) (DE & Mrs EM Olsen’s brown horse 5 years Ebony Brosve-Wairongoa Belle by Sea Anchor $17) Craig Williams for Richard Yuill (Waiuku, NZ).

2nd VANQUISHED (brown gelding 7 years Hector Protector-Exuberance by Last Tycoon $6) Greg Childs for Bede Murray (Kembla Grange).

3rd DRACS BACK (bay gelding 5 years Dracula-Clippings by Snippets $3.80 fav) Blake Shinn for Darren Weir (Ballarat).

Then came: Kerry O’Reilly ($13), Cefalu ($16), On a Jeune ($11), Defining ($21), Siamun ($9.50), Irazu ($21), Vengo ($20), Professional Lady ($7.50), Pentane ($12), Envoy ($61), Diamond Jake ($26), Natural Blitz ($21), Ista Kareem ($61), Exalted Time ($71).

Margins: 1 3/4 lengths x 1/2 length. Time: 2 minutes 28.29 seconds.

http://www.virtualformguide.com/cgi-bin … esults.txt

best regards

wit

[wit]

bit more on Mandela

http://www.virtualformguide.com/cgi-bin … elabig.txt

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…..this year’s fairytale story …..bought for $NZ 1,600 at Karaka’s Festival Sale as a "scruffy" yearling…… fighting back from suspected selenium poisoning a year ago….now a sensational shortener with TAB Sportsbet from $301 to $21

Racing Victoria handicapper Greg Carpenter will assess Wednesday’s win overnight before announcing any penalty which is necessary to lift him from 51st in order of entry for the Cup.

Ridden by Craig Williams…..

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best regards

wit

[wit]

hi trackside

he’s trained by David Hayes, and came 4th in the Caulfield Guineas two Saturdays back (October 14  -race 7):

http://www.melbourneracingclub.net.au/r … lts141006/

<br>if you go here:

http://www.lindsaypark.com.au/dh/pages/dh_news.html

then scroll down in the window with the silks you’ll find a picture link plus

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Churchill Downs Scores Stutt Stake

Last year’s Golden Slipper third-place getter, Churchill Downs scored a break through win in the Gr 2 Stutt Stakes (1600m) at Moonee Valley on Friday night.  

The Coolmore-owned colt by Danehill ex Silken Whisper is now well on his way to the Gr 1 Caulfield Guineas on October 14 at Caulfield

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Owner: D A Hayes, Mrs S Magnier, Strawberry Hill Stud Synd, J & Mrs E Begley, K Chye, M Biasin, etc

Breeder: Strawberry Hill Stud

<br>best regards

wit

[wit]

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Yeats not the pick of the crop: Kinane

KIEREN Fallon has called Yeats "by far the best horse who has come down here" to race for the Melbourne Cup but the Irish raider has not received such a ringing endorsement from another jockey even better placed to judge.

Michael Kinane, aboard Vintage Crop in 1993 when the gelding became the first European-trained horse to win the Cup, admitted a degree of scepticism about Yeats’ chances and refused to rank him above Vintage Crop.

Kinane is intimately acquainted with Yeats, having piloted the six-year-old stallion to his most recent win (in the Goodwood Cup in August) before bringing Kastoria home in the Irish St Leger, pipping Yeats by half-a-length.

"Vintage Crop was a very good horse. He [Yeats] would be a better stayer but not possibly a quicker horse," judged Kinane. "Vintage Crop’s best distance was probably a mile-and-a-half to a mile-and-six [2400m-2800m]."

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http://www.smh.com.au/news/horseracing/ … 89479.html

best regards

wit

[deltaman]

Wit,<br>      Any thoughts on ‘The Cox Plate’, do you think ‘Fields of Omagh’ can go any better at the age of 9 or place again.<br>All the Best

[wit]

hi deltaman

certainly can’t ignore the Hayes-Williams connection with the form they’re in, though Hayes’ other runner Miss Finland would be the fairytale.

i’d go with O’Shea / Boss (Racing To Win) though as most likely winner around this Aussie version of Chester.

http://www.ozracing.net.au/cgi-bin/rsb/ … FA?State=V

best regards

wit

[beauzam]

It would be ironic if Coolmore,having heavied Fallon onto their horses,were to lose his services for the cup.If there were to be a repition of the Military Cross(Derby Day) or Ad Veloreum(Queen Anne) careless riding,to name but two examples,he will be dealt with unsympathetically.<br> Mick Kinane needs to think about how to get his tack clean of all the Louisville dirt post BC Classic,in time for an eventual call up for Melbourne duties.The Cox Plate is frequently a very competitive heat owing to the cauldronlike atmosphere and the prize on offer.It’s easy for a jockey to overstep the mark.Whilst KF rides Chester well,the rail is not the place to be,approaching the false straight.He has a live chance in the big race,but might be grateful if he survives the day without an early shower.With four mounts I’d rate his chances as 50/50.<br> With the generous prizemoney down to tenth place,Yeats should pick up his expenses but wont hit the frame regardless who rides.He’s the wrong type of horse for the race, looking vulnerable to finishing speed,conceding weight all round, dependent on a good draw for a sit plus he has been up for  six months.The race is invariably won by a horse in the best form of its life and thusfar Tawqeet and Mandela fit the bill coming from stables which are familiar with the big time.Given his flat performance at the Curragh we’re still guessing where Yeats is currently at. More will be revealed regarding Cup form in next the seven days but, European form should be checked in with your luggage upon departure and treated with the same caution as all liquid carryon items.<br>                            bzm.<br>                                  

[wit]

good points, beauzam.

<br>trackside,

David Hayes was in HK from 1995 to 2005, during which time he won over GBP 40 million.    

He began training in Aus with a splash in 1990 and there’s a useful career summary for him for 1990 – 1995 at

http://www.springracingcarnival.com.au/ … page_id=65

(Tony McEvoy, the assistant trainer who kept Lindsay Park ticking after the death of Peter Hayes in 2001, is the uncle of Kerrin.)

Since returning to Aus, Hayes has been doing well and is likely to do much better once he develops a few older stars.

best regards

wit<br>

(Edited by wit at 9:04 am on Oct. 28, 2006)

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