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  • #3202
    wit
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    Tawqeet wins Caulfield Cup for Sh. Hamdan, David Hayes says Melbourne Cup next :

    <!– m –>http://www.smh.com.au/news/horseracing/ … 87444.html<!– m –>

    <br>SMH goes gooey over Francesca Cumani:

    <!– m –>http://www.smh.com.au/news/horseracing/ … 88228.html<!– m –>

    <br>….and a piece on Kieren:

    <!– m –>http://www.smh.com.au/news/horseracing/ … 65604.html<!– m –>

    <br>best regards

    wit

    #80755
    deltaman
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    Hi Wit,<br>        6 horses in the past 25 years have gone into the Melbourne Cup with two penalties but none have finished in the placings……..Tawqeet…….Lay!

    #80756
    wit
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    hi deltaman

    …and in 145 years, its only gone twice to an international challenger, both trained by dermot weld.

    must be a local again – unless Delta Blues for jpn ?

    best regards

    wit

    #80757
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    Hi guys …I’m down here..Was in Caulfield saturday…If Taasqueet wins the cup it will be 3 grade ones in a month..Hardly Gonna happen..Yeats is a better horse than any other in the race.Mr.Fallon is a far superior rider to the Oz jockeys too.He rides tomorrow in the Geelong cup.I am going to do my best ta meet him..

    #80758
    wit
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    hi GM

    good stuff – let us know how it goes.

    Fallon doesn’t seem to see the "three races in a month" aspect as that much of a deal:

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    …While acknowledging that Yeats is the best horse in the Melbourne Cup, Fallon believes the topweight is not going to find it easy after watching the Caulfield Cup first-hand.

    "The way they seem to race here is not going to suit him because he needs a strong tempo all the way," Fallon said.

    "He’s not the sort of horse you can stop and start like they do here and I won’t be riding him that way.

    "No wonder they can run in the Caulfield Cup or that race on Derby day (the Mackinnon) and then back up in the Melbourne Cup because they hardly have a blow-out," he said.<br><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    http://www.theage.com.au/news/horse-rac … 08587.html

    <br>….and then there’s David Hayes eyeing up that AUD 500,000 bonus for hitting all three with Tawqeet:

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    The Metropolitan was sailing close to the wind, with demotion from group 1 to group 2 level a real possibility, but the Australian Jockey Club took action to revive the long-standing race and it appears to have worked.

    In 2001, it reduced its distance from 2600 to 2400 metres and last year brought in a tempting bonus incentive: $250,000 extra if the Metropolitan winner went on to win the Caulfield Cup and/or Melbourne Cup, and $500,000 extra if it won all three.

    The bonus quickly went off when Railings won the Metropolitan and Caulfield Cup last year, and this year, Tawqeet has the first bonus in the bank, with a shot at another $250,000 in two weeks’ time.

    The previous horse to win the Metropolitan-Caulfield Cup double before these two was Hayai in 1983. And the Metropolitan-Melbourne Cup double has proven even more elusive in modern times: not since Macdougal in 1959 has a horse won both races in the same year.

    But the times, and races, are changing.

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    http://www.theage.com.au/news/horse-rac … 63501.html

    <br>best regards

    wit

    #80759
    wit
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    hi M

    it really depends what you mean by "grand scheme of things".

    purists can look at past results and current entries and note that its a handicap and open to geldings

    http://www.vrc.net.au/cpa/htm/htm_mcc_c … ent_id=773

    <br>the Aus public can look to Makybe Diva like the UK public looked to Red Rum.

    I guess anyone (Aus or otherwise) starts with it being an international race with an AUD 3m first prize and "a 145-year old social and cultural tradition that literally brings Australia to a standstill", and then applies their own perspective.

    <br>….meanwhile, in Saturday’s Cox Plate, Fallon is jocked onto outsider Aqua D’Amore by "Irish-based breeding giant Coolmore Stud"

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/horseracing/ … 21983.html

    <br>best regards

    wit

    (Edited by wit at 9:00 pm on Oct. 24, 2006)

    #80760
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    Australia thinks everything here is more important than anything anywhere else in the world….Cocky shower of ****
    ers but we will quieten them this year…

    #80761
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    GM<br> Do you really think that Yeats can win it?<br> KF is already expressing concerns about the ‘stop, go’ nature of the race, and has seemed reluctant in the past to make ithe pace on him.<br> If he does pull it off – and I sincerely hope he does – it will take a masterful ride in the circumstances, though he is certainly (imo) the man for the job.

    #80762
    deltaman
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    Wit,<br>      Who won the Geelong Cup  please, I’m trying to make up a short list.  many thanks in advance.

    #80763
    wit
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    hi deltaman

    Race 8 – $150,000 Petstock Geelong Cup – 2400m<br>Group 3 race

    1st MANDELA (NZ) (DE & Mrs EM Olsen’s brown horse 5 years Ebony Brosve-Wairongoa Belle by Sea Anchor $17) Craig Williams for Richard Yuill (Waiuku, NZ).

    2nd VANQUISHED (brown gelding 7 years Hector Protector-Exuberance by Last Tycoon $6) Greg Childs for Bede Murray (Kembla Grange).

    3rd DRACS BACK (bay gelding 5 years Dracula-Clippings by Snippets $3.80 fav) Blake Shinn for Darren Weir (Ballarat).

    Then came: Kerry O’Reilly ($13), Cefalu ($16), On a Jeune ($11), Defining ($21), Siamun ($9.50), Irazu ($21), Vengo ($20), Professional Lady ($7.50), Pentane ($12), Envoy ($61), Diamond Jake ($26), Natural Blitz ($21), Ista Kareem ($61), Exalted Time ($71).

    Margins: 1 3/4 lengths x 1/2 length. Time: 2 minutes 28.29 seconds.

    http://www.virtualformguide.com/cgi-bin … esults.txt

    best regards

    wit

    #80764
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    bit more on Mandela

    http://www.virtualformguide.com/cgi-bin … elabig.txt

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    …..this year’s fairytale story …..bought for $NZ 1,600 at Karaka’s Festival Sale as a "scruffy" yearling…… fighting back from suspected selenium poisoning a year ago….now a sensational shortener with TAB Sportsbet from $301 to $21

    Racing Victoria handicapper Greg Carpenter will assess Wednesday’s win overnight before announcing any penalty which is necessary to lift him from 51st in order of entry for the Cup.

    Ridden by Craig Williams…..

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    best regards

    wit

    #80765
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    hi trackside

    he’s trained by David Hayes, and came 4th in the Caulfield Guineas two Saturdays back (October 14  -race 7):

    http://www.melbourneracingclub.net.au/r … lts141006/

    <br>if you go here:

    http://www.lindsaypark.com.au/dh/pages/dh_news.html

    then scroll down in the window with the silks you’ll find a picture link plus

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>29/09/2006 –

    Churchill Downs Scores Stutt Stake

    Last year’s Golden Slipper third-place getter, Churchill Downs scored a break through win in the Gr 2 Stutt Stakes (1600m) at Moonee Valley on Friday night.  

    The Coolmore-owned colt by Danehill ex Silken Whisper is now well on his way to the Gr 1 Caulfield Guineas on October 14 at Caulfield

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    Owner: D A Hayes, Mrs S Magnier, Strawberry Hill Stud Synd, J & Mrs E Begley, K Chye, M Biasin, etc

    Breeder: Strawberry Hill Stud

    <br>best regards

    wit

    #80766
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    Yeats not the pick of the crop: Kinane

    KIEREN Fallon has called Yeats "by far the best horse who has come down here" to race for the Melbourne Cup but the Irish raider has not received such a ringing endorsement from another jockey even better placed to judge.

    Michael Kinane, aboard Vintage Crop in 1993 when the gelding became the first European-trained horse to win the Cup, admitted a degree of scepticism about Yeats’ chances and refused to rank him above Vintage Crop.

    Kinane is intimately acquainted with Yeats, having piloted the six-year-old stallion to his most recent win (in the Goodwood Cup in August) before bringing Kastoria home in the Irish St Leger, pipping Yeats by half-a-length.

    "Vintage Crop was a very good horse. He [Yeats] would be a better stayer but not possibly a quicker horse," judged Kinane. "Vintage Crop’s best distance was probably a mile-and-a-half to a mile-and-six [2400m-2800m]."

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    http://www.smh.com.au/news/horseracing/ … 89479.html

    best regards

    wit

    #80767
    deltaman
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    Wit,<br>      Any thoughts on ‘The Cox Plate’, do you think ‘Fields of Omagh’ can go any better at the age of 9 or place again.<br>All the Best

    #80768
    wit
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    hi deltaman

    certainly can’t ignore the Hayes-Williams connection with the form they’re in, though Hayes’ other runner Miss Finland would be the fairytale.

    i’d go with O’Shea / Boss (Racing To Win) though as most likely winner around this Aussie version of Chester.

    http://www.ozracing.net.au/cgi-bin/rsb/ … FA?State=V

    best regards

    wit

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