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Thouraghly agree about DoM going for the Classic. Think he would be perfectly suited for it instead of Henry. He has the speed of a miler and the stamina for 1m4f….surely the perfect combo???
He’s the perfect candidate for the race, both physically and mentally.
He has tactical speed to hold a position, a turn of foot and plenty of stamina.
He’s a big, solid horse who will not get bullied during the race and, as we have seen time and time again, he won’t run from a fight.
The Duke is known for his laid back attitude, so you wouldn’t expect the travelling, heat or the occasion to bother him.
He’s proven on any ground, so the surface shouldn’t pose a problem.
A lot has been said about the Arc.
The Duke is almost certain not to run. Good news for Zarkava? Yes and No. I’ve just looked at the latest betting for the race – it’s not going to be a vintage renewal.
Zarkava’s chances of winning the race will improve dramatically without DOM. If she wins, the critics will say "What did she beat?" If she loses, she’ll appear very average.
Zarkava needs The Duke more than he needs her.
Totally disagree about Zarkava needing DOM.
For me she wouldn’t see him in her way.
And I don’t need BINOCULAR to spot that
Honestly mate she is different class to DOM and O’Brien and co know it.
Mortgage your house, sell the cat dog and wife and get your lot on this filly.
Fist of fury; Hve you had some kind of ephinay regarding zarkava winning the arc.I reckon you have beacause Its the only way i can see why your so conifident in her.
Fist of fury; Hve you had some kind of ephinay regarding zarkava winning the arc.I reckon you have beacause Its the only way i can see why your so conifident in her.
Please feel free to refer to any thread involving Kauto Star during the last Jumps season- you’ll soon learn that this is nothing new. Also, if you look at threads at the start of the Flat season, you’ll find an admission or eight from Fist stating that he doesn’t care too much for the level.
For what it’s worth, I also think Zarkava will take the world of beating in the Arc.
I think she oozes class – and she will be fresh as a daisy come the day, which is a bonus.
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who asked you for your worthless opinion and sarcastic comments?
Yes I thought Kauto Star was a good thing for the Gold Cup and was wrong albeit he ran way below his best. I also spotted Binocular and said he was a Champion Hurdle horse on his very first run while you and others said I was talking rubbish.
I think you should read your own post and count the sheckles in your pocket before slagging me or anyone else off.
I am no great fan of the flat but what difference does it make if it’s 5 furlongs or 5 miles when it comes to judging a horse? You either have an eye for it or you don’t and you my friend wouldn’t know a good horse if it jumped up and bit you.
For what it’s worth, I also think Zarkava will take the world of beating in the Arc.
I think she oozes class – and she will be fresh as a daisy come the day, which is a bonus.
That’s because you know class when you see it. Just surprised you haven’t got round to changing your name to Mr Denman yet
Fist, you are the living end… And the world’s #1 hype-merchant. Have you ever noticed yourself getting more blinkered and enthusiastic about a horses chances the more people disagree with you? But then again, I suppose a man who picks his wife from a catalogue has to have a lot of faith in his own judgement.
How anyone can be so certain about a filly who has yet to take on colts is beyond me. We’ve seen it time and time before.
Sure she looks a brilliant horse and sure she could win it, but to call her a cast-iron certainty in a rough race like the arc is naive.
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Fist, you are the living end… And the world’s #1 hype-merchant. Have you ever noticed yourself getting more blinkered and enthusiastic about a horses chances the more people disagree with you? But then again, I suppose a man who picks his wife from a catalogue has to have a lot of faith in his own judgement.
My wife from a catalogue?. My wife is a university graduate and works in real Estate. She also runs a magazine which I will get to later. We are expecting our first baby soon and just because we don’t know who the father is you slag me off
I don’t think I was alone with Kauto Star and I have certainly not given up on him. Denman is a marvelous horse and will take all tye beating in the Gold Cup next season. However, depsite the fact the critics saying French Horses like Kauto have a short shelf life I truly believe he will come back with a bang and win his title of the best chaser in the world back again.
Great horses like Kauto Star come once or twice in a lifetime and I find that exciting. So forgive me if I get carried away.
I can’t think of any horse bar "Himself" who would have beaten Denman in this years race. None that is except Kauto Star who ran miles below his best.
I still say he is the best since Arkle and unless Denman kicks his butt again I won’t be shifted on that.
Getting back to the wife she is 4 months pregnant but she is still working and asks me to tell you that your subscription to her magazine "How to make love to small animals and Hobits" has run out and she expects your cheque within 7 days
The good news is your subscription to " Cross Dressing only hurts when you are caught" has 3 months left to run.How anyone can be so certain about a filly who has yet to take on colts is beyond me. We’ve seen it time and time before.
Sure she looks a brilliant horse and sure she could win it, but to call her a cast-iron certainty in a rough race like the arc is naive.
Thinking the colts around are anything special is more Naive. Many many fillies have won Group races putting the colts in their place.
DOM is the best of the colts but never once has he had me saying "Wow" He wins his race through sheer power and guts but there is definately something lacking.
Zarkava on the otherhand travels so easily at all times, has a great attitude and she never gets perturbed. The one time she did meet with trouble she made up 5 lengths and won as far in an amazing short distance and just oozes class.
For me she is extraordinary and isn’t 3/1 favopurite for nothing. I said at the time SOF was a completely false favourite and she was the one who would end up favourite. Seems I got that right and I doubt very much I am wrong about the outcome.
At least I am clear on what I think whereas you are saying you can’t see why I am so adamant but inthe same breath say you think she can win.
You seem in doubt so if I was you I wouldn’t have a bet.
I already have had several bets on her and can’t wait to collect. Biggest certainty since Sea Bird II
Well at least you’re reasonable.
Regardless of how good or bad the colts are, you simply won’t know how good Zarkava is until she races against them. It’s that simple and I’ve seen over-confidence a hundred times in the last few years re any number of horses.
Fist – you keep lighting cigarettes in the trenches there and you’re gonna get your head shot off (again!).
Denman palpably the better horse on all form last season.Re- Zarkava –
Gagnoa
Goldikova
Conference Call
Truly BelleThose are the horses that have finished runner up to her. Now while she has admittedly won very impressively and has done nothing wrong, deserving every ounce of respect, she will find an Arc field, over a distance further than she’s ever raced before and containing such as Soldier of Fortune, Youmzain (whose effort last year has been under-rated and who, consequently, I have backed accordingly for this year’s renewal) and, possibly, New Approach, a very, very different proposition to anything she’s tackled to date.
I’m a big fan of hers but I have to agree with Cian on this one.
Well at least you’re reasonable.
Regardless of how good or bad the colts are, you simply won’t know how good Zarkava is until she races against them. It’s that simple and I’ve seen over-confidence a hundred times in the last few years re any number of horses.
Bruce once said "don’t watch the finger or you will miss all the heavenly glory" "What appears simple is only simple to those of a simple mind"
One should not be so narrow minded and look both ways when crossing the road of life grasshopper
Perhaps one should be thinking we won’t know how the good colts are until they race against her ?
Except all the stats and history suggests the exact opposite…that fillys must prove themselves against a) a three year old colt and b) an older horse.
She argueably has yet to face the top fillys in training (the Oaks winner and Lush Lashes) let alone the best colts.
Goldikova should give us a fair idea at the weekend.
Personally I like Zarkava a lot and the way the Arc field is shaping up I think her chances are improving all the time.
They better go a good gallop and run the finish out of her because I don’t feel there is anything in the current field with the same burst of speed as her. Stamina will be her undoing.
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