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  • #177256
    Reference Point
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    I have a few quid on Multidimensional e/w at 25/1 at the 4 day stage and so long as there are 8 runners I think I may be ok as I think he has a solid e/w chance with the ground and distance.

    #177275
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    RP report has AOB saying there is a doubt about DOM running due to heavy ground, a decision is expected today. He has eased to evens while NA is a short as 7-4.

    Fingers crossed they leave him in.

    I agree about Multidimensional having a good ew chance as he proved at Haydock he acts on heavy though the race may come a bit quick for him.

    #177288
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    New Approach will be unbackable if Duke Of Marmalade withdraws.

    #177289
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    Great news AOB confirms DOM will take his chance. The main worry now is will the course be fit for racing though latest news suggest it is.

    #177303
    Hawk Wing
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    The Duke hasn’t much of a chance in this ground

    #177306
    nefertiti
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    AOB said:

    Conditions are far from ideal for him [DOM], but the owners are prepared to let him take his chance.

    This sounds to me that AOB is reluctant to let him run but has been overruled. Btw, he usually calls them "the lads", not "the owners".

    #177307
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    Why do so many write the duke off because of the grd??????? yes he has done 95% of his racing on faster grd,but the 2times he has run on soft grd he won and was 3rd,the grd was pretty soft at ascot last yr when he was 3rd behind romonti.You could understand if he had run on softer grd before and had disappointed but thats not the case,He is a big horse and i dont think he will have any problem with the grd 2moro,i might be wrong but we wont know untill 3.30 2moro atfernoon

    #177312
    tenbob
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    my ratings

    142 duke of marmalade
    141 new approach
    138 pipedreamer
    136 phoenix tower
    129 multidimensional
    115 red rock canyon
    112 rob roy
    109 stubbs art
    108 halicarnassus
    107 championship point

    will back duke to win
    and pipedreamer ew

    #177321
    clivex
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    Why do so many write the duke off because of the grd???????

    Because the trainer probably knows what hes talking about :)

    #177327
    carvillshill
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    If he drifts a little more I’ll be backing the Duke- he is the older race-fit horse and should be a big favourite over a 3 year old who’s been off since the Derby. The match bet might be worth doing with the spread firms.

    #177353
    Bulwark
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    New approach has never run below par and bolger has never put him (or teofilo) out under par. Will be expecting him to romp home tomorrow. The classiest horse in the race by some way and has everything in his favour for a demolition job, couldnt bet against him.

    Biggest Clash of the year IMO. Cant wait.

    #177355
    FrankLucas
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    With his recent muscle problems there’s got to be a doubt about New Approach making his come back on bottomless ground, no?

    #177359
    Bulwark
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    His muscle problems (which lets face it have only kept him out for 1.5 months, since he was pulled from the irish derby) have led to an all too convenient avoidance of the gd-fm period, he was only pulled from the irish derby with problems when it became clear that he race would be on gd-fm. Suddenly he is back in race which has looked like his race all season, should he challenge it.

    All season I have been waiting for these two to clash at this trip on this (well maybe not as bad) ground, and my preference has always been for NA. Sure it is possible that he may not run to form, despite being a model of consistency his whole career, but that can happen to any horse in any race (dylan thomas in this race two years ago for example) and so I am not overly concerned, thats something you accept before you put your money down.

    We will know more by tomorrow but for now I am keeping faith in the class horse of the race, DOM is shorter in price, has never appeared a match for na, is giving weight (weight for age I realise) and doesnt look to have his ideal ground conditions, it makes no sense to me from the way I see both horses to bet against NA.

    #177369
    carvillshill
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    I wonder if TDK will go for his Red Rock Canyon place bet again- doesn’t look bad value at 66/1 1/4 first 3- might even start bigger, and in front might be the place to be on this ground…..

    #177421
    PAULCS
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    New Approach was apparently pulled out before the abandonment so does this mean that he wouldn’t be able to run if they raced on Fri?

    #177441
    carvillshill
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    Wouldn’t think so- I’d imagine the original 48 hr decs will stand.

    #177471
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    AFAIK NA was en route until the course contacted Bolger whereupon they returned to the stables. DOM had already landed here.

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