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August 17, 2022 at 12:15 #1611313
“I haven’t heard anyone say this horse is as good as Frankel”
Just watch ITV racing this afternoon it’s almost guaranteed to come out before they televise the first race.
Just checked so far Baaeed hasn’t matched any of Frankel’s top 10 speed figures and his highest RPR comes 8th in comparison.
good luck to allAugust 17, 2022 at 14:21 #1611338To be fair, it is fair to compare Baaeed to Frankel in as much as their winning runs / (supposed) invincibility… Just not in ability / ratings.
Baaeed is bred to stay 1m2f so there is a chance he will improve.
Many horses bred to stay further who’ve had so much speed at lesser distances – despite breeding – don’t stay. However, the reason those don’t stay is usually because the horse does not settle well enough.Of course there is a chance Baaeed does not stay today, but the fact he settles so well at a mile means he’s got an excellent chance of showing his form or even improving on it.
That said, the current odds don’t look value to me.
Value Is EverythingAugust 17, 2022 at 14:54 #1611345High Definition is the only pace that I can see. However, at 1m2f High Definition’s best form in the Tatts Gold Cup suggests he needs a strong pace in order to produce his best. Likely to be swamped for speed if setting a slowish pace so it probably won’t be in his favour to mess about. Although is possible he might pinch a few lengths at the start as others are making sure their mounts settle.
I’ve backed Mishriff and High Definition both ew.
Value Is EverythingAugust 17, 2022 at 14:57 #1611347Not really my type of race, but I’ve always liked Sir Busker, so even with full acceptance beforehand that he’ll be outclassed, I couldn’t leave him alone EW at this price.
Sir Busker 125’s EW
August 17, 2022 at 15:10 #1611354Baeed got a rash on his neck. Trainer told off for not producing a vet certificate. On course vet said not contagious.
August 17, 2022 at 15:38 #1611365Never in doubt. A star.
August 17, 2022 at 15:38 #1611366Phenominal, has cemented his place in the high 130s now
Well deserved
Will get 136 for that
Was heavily, heavily against him in play also!
August 17, 2022 at 15:38 #1611367Arounnd 6 length win by the look of it.
August 17, 2022 at 15:39 #1611369Can’t argue with that….impressive visually at last
August 17, 2022 at 15:39 #1611370Form held down by the third being so close after fluffing the start, but undoubtedly impressive.
August 17, 2022 at 15:39 #1611371Blimey.
August 17, 2022 at 15:39 #1611372Go for the Arc, please, Mr Haggas.
Blackbeard to conquer the World
August 17, 2022 at 15:40 #1611373When a horse travels up like that in a big group 1 race, it sends shivers.
August 17, 2022 at 15:41 #1611374Have to admit, that looked seriously sweet.
August 17, 2022 at 15:41 #1611375Jesus, some will never be satisfied.
Wow, just wow!
Value Is EverythingAugust 17, 2022 at 15:42 #1611376Nathan a mile and a half in a bog have my doubts. If October is a bog at Ascot he could go back to a mile.
August 17, 2022 at 15:43 #1611378“Form held down by the third being so close after fluffing the start, but undoubtedly impressive.”
Exactly what I thought – makes it hard to believe Mishriff ran to his OR.
But Baaeed was undoubtedly impressive – that’s still probably his career best in my opinion.
And maybe missing the break was no great handicap as High Definition set a kamikaze pace judging by the way he faded out of it.
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