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When Ladbrokes opened close to where I live in 1988 the settler was a lovely woman but didn’t have a clue.Her main failing was that she thought a draw in a football match had the effect of making the bet a non runner.She also coudn’t work out a placepot perm to save her life.All price changes were by phone or on teletext.
I was a student at the time and many a Saturday was financed by dodgy bets.The whole idea was to take a few quid here and there.
Just after I went to London in 92 Paddy Power were establishing themselves at the time and all prices and changes were by fax and phone.The Olympics were on and for one of the sprint events it said bets must be on by a certain time.Problem was race took place an hour earlier.My mates watched the race in a nearby pub and then casually had as much money as they could lay their hands on the winner.They got paid out .
Happy days.Wow, that was amazing, Luke. Can’t believe she thought a footy draw was a non runner.
Sounds like you had a great wheeze there.
Zip
Maybe she was American
I have have also seen fairly valuable sleepers where the staff have been instructed not to inform the customer.
I have have also seen fairly valuable sleepers where the staff have been instructed not to inform the customer.
Interesting to hear an opinion on sleeper bets.
It does not surprise me at all – they must add up to a fair sum. (?)
Zip
When Ladbrokes opened close to where I live in 1988 the settler was a lovely woman but didn’t have a clue.Her main failing was that she thought a draw in a football match had the effect of making the bet a non runner.She also coudn’t work out a placepot perm to save her life.All price changes were by phone or on teletext.
I was a student at the time and many a Saturday was financed by dodgy bets.The whole idea was to take a few quid here and there.
Just after I went to London in 92 Paddy Power were establishing themselves at the time and all prices and changes were by fax and phone.The Olympics were on and for one of the sprint events it said bets must be on by a certain time.Problem was race took place an hour earlier.My mates watched the race in a nearby pub and then casually had as much money as they could lay their hands on the winner.They got paid out .
Happy days.Wow, that was amazing, Luke. Can’t believe she thought a footy draw was a non runner.
Sounds like you had a great wheeze there.
Zip
Maybe she was American
Whoo-hoo for the yanks!
Zip
Very sad thread. [b:2ro2wkk1]The one thing I like most about racing is the total honesty between bookmakers and punters in the ring, especially in the UK[/b:2ro2wkk1]. More than once I’ve owned up to getting too much on course, most recently at Cheltenham in March when the ticket on my winner had the wrong stake on it.
I find it especially sad that Barry Dennis would take advantage of a punter placing a bet that couldn’t win- shame on you.
As others have said, cheating a betting shop is no different to stealing from any other shop, pathetic justifications about big corporations don’t excuse it. Personally, my life would be better without people like Getzippy on this forum.Wow Carvills, you must have a very astute face that bookies daren’t mess with
I believe there isn’t a single ‘ring’ bookie in this country who wouldn’t try to con an unformative face. You are someone who bets with the twinkle in your eye, someone who bookies know you know how it all works.
Try being a £10 punter, a bit drunk, who looks as if they’ve just placed their first bet in their lives – then you will see what UK ‘ring’ bookmakers are all about.
I recently had a £10 win on a 10/3 winner – on collecting my winnings the bookie told his assistant, "£43.33, just give him £40". I cracked up, "What do you mean just give hime £40" I shouted. On realising that he was now up against someone who knew how to work a bet out he apologised and told me it was a simple mistake.
Simple mistake my arse. To any unexpecting punter they would have been happy with the £40, while the bookie benefited from the £3.33 that wasn’t rightfully theirs.
I informed everyone who was queuing up to collect winnings that the bookie had just tried it on and to be careful. I stood, to his apparant horror, as everyone in the queue was paid correctly.
And you think UK ring bookies are honest. Mate, put a chav shirt on, act tipsy, and talk to a friend as you hand your winning receipt over – then you will see how honest they are.
Mike
For christs sake. The only people who can honestly condemn Zip are those who have never taken a cheeky chance in their lives.
Are those of you all REALLY as pure as that?
Speaking of bookies in the ring, I was at Navan dogs about 10 years ago and backed the winner of the last down in the ring. I was up having a pint at the time and after I finished, I went down to collect. The bookie was packing up and about to leave (this was maybe 10 mins after last race). I told him I had a winning ticket and he tells me (without even looking at his book) that my ticket is a loser and that he has no more winning tickets in his book. I insisted and after a few minutes to and fro he looks in the book and pays out.
Having said that I have never had any trouble betting on course at a horse-racing meeting, although not betting each-way is frustrating, but that’s a different argument for another day.
Onthesteal,
I think most of us understand Zip’s point of view and do not condemn him, but understand the human weaknesses that tempt all of us from time to time.
No, what we condemn is the praise and congratulations others might give to those who cheat. I can sympathise with anyone who is tempted and strays(there but for fortune etc….), but that is different from patting them on the back, surely?
Very sad thread. The one thing I like most about racing is the total honesty between bookmakers and punters in the ring, especially in the UK. More than once I’ve owned up to getting too much on course, most recently at Cheltenham in March when the ticket on my winner had the wrong stake on it.
I find it especially sad that Barry Dennis would take advantage of a punter placing a bet that couldn’t win- shame on you.
As others have said, cheating a betting shop is no different to stealing from any other shop, pathetic justifications about big corporations don’t excuse it. Personally, my life would be better without people like Getzippy on this forum.Well said.
Where did you come across that bad bookie, Micky Mo?
Wetherby a few seasons back. Can’t for the life of me remember his name, I was just so shocked at his blatant attempt to short pay me.
Mike
Manchester racing, not sure if surname or just name of firm (usually northern circuit) did similar to me, well was only £2 out so never really said anything but guess if do that with every punter you’re coining it in.
Wetherby.
Thanks, Micky Mo.
Not good news.
I’ve been remarkably lucky myself. Many of the places I go, money doesn’t change hands, till after the race.
The whole thing hinges on trust; "down to my friend" etc.I trust the bookies I use, and I’m grateful that they’re still providing a service.
In fact, imo, the biggest rip-off in racing comes from the tracks, with their high admission charges and poor, over-priced, facilities.
Manchester racing, not sure if surname or just name of firm (usually northern circuit) did similar to me, well was only £2 out so never really said anything but guess if do that with every punter you’re coining it in.
A lad in a Tote booth at Haydock tried to do something similar to my old boss at Coral – she then gave him a ten minute lecture on how to work out exacta dividends
I got my marching orders from my local bookies a few years ago for winning a few quid, over a period of time. Anyone who consistently wins will be treated as a cheat by the bookies, honest or not.
Personally, I wouldnt do something like have a bet if I knew the result, not because I’m honest just suspicious ..
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