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If your bill in a restaurant has left off a dish or bottle of wine etc. How many of you would flag it up and ask for the bill to be ammended to the higher amount. I wouldn’t. Their mistake. Tough.
Thankfully Crizzy some of us are more honest than others. Something similar happened to me when dining with a friend in Pizza Hut, I’d just nipped to the bathroom and my friend had picked up his bag and gone to make a phone call. Whilst away the waitress had cleaned up the table (no bill on it etc.) and re-set it for the next people.
Would personally consider it theft not to own up to something like that – could have walked off without paying the £15 in the same way that some do in a restaurant but would consider that theft.
As for the OP he’s nothing but a scummy fraudster.
I object to the use of the word "scummy." I prefer initiative.
Zip
My favourite betting shop scam is to walk in with a handgun, find the youngest female member of staff, point it at her head and tell the manager to give you all the money or you’ll "blow her f@#!ing brains out"; this rarely fails to reap dividends. It may seem a little harsh, but remember that they WILL close winning accounts so probably deserve it. I hope this helps.
Rory, would you recommend using a silencer or should I handcuff the person?
Zip
If your bill in a restaurant has left off a dish or bottle of wine etc. How many of you would flag it up and ask for the bill to be ammended to the higher amount. I wouldn’t. Their mistake. Tough.
Thankfully Crizzy some of us are more honest than others. Something similar happened to me when dining with a friend in Pizza Hut, I’d just nipped to the bathroom and my friend had picked up his bag and gone to make a phone call. Whilst away the waitress had cleaned up the table (no bill on it etc.) and re-set it for the next people.
Would personally consider it theft not to own up to something like that – could have walked off without paying the £15 in the same way that some do in a restaurant but would consider that theft.
As for the OP he’s nothing but a scummy fraudster.
I object to the use of the word "scummy." I prefer initiative.
Zip
scummy, initiative, fraud, it all amounts to theft at the end of the day.
I certainly don’t supportIf I got up to something I shouldn’t have last night with a member of the opposite sex and happend to blurt it out on here would people be telling me what scum I was for breaking the law?
Of all the posts on this subject, I find this one to be easily the most distrubing.
John Major Bull, bulwark?
I’d forgotten about him. Wasn’t he England’s biggest loser?
I heard he became a millionaire a few weeks after he suffered the worst ever drubbing of a British PM at the polls.The whole point is this: gambling attracts people who want to try to get something for nothing; the pipedream of easy money.
Racing is a gambling industry based on corruption. Pulling the wool over people’s eyes is par for the course and the "done thing".In the old, old days, the only folk who could afford the best of horses were the the aristocracy – a wealthy inbred gang, descending from violent criminals who had managed to grab all the good land.
These legalised villains ran races. Side events – mostly involving gambling – grew up. Other criminals , namely, punters and bookmakers became involved.
British victorian morality and its legacy cast a veil over the whole shenninigins in an attempt to sanitise , legitimise and regulate the game.
This still goes on today, though almost everybody knows it’s just a sham.OK, that’s a brief history, which I’m sure is not disputed.
Now onto the more worrying concern; the slip in standards in general society. Times were bad and hard before this, but folk had rules; wrong-doers did their time without a whine.
Chronologically, the moral decline in western europe is contemporary with the rule of the three mentioned ( OK three and a half
). Times were bad and hard before this, but folk had rules; wrong-doers did their time without a whine.It may be just an unfortunate coincidence, but
whatever it is, there is no doubt that we older gits are not without blame here.
The mindless violators we hear about on a daily basis, do NOT know any better. They should do, of course, but how can they, when they’ve never been taught about right and wrong.
Sure, there may be some gibberish songs and chants about "respect" and "dissing", but, in the main, the prevalent view nowadays seems to be"anything goes, provided it gratifies my immediate selfish needs and I can get away with it."
So, here we are back at square one.
It’s the same old story.And where do I fit into it? Well, I’m just a part of it: both victim and perpetrator.
Punters and Bookmakers ain’t a battle; it’s a relationship. Take away one side and the game’s up, imo.
Currently, a sick socio-economic set-up is destroying both, but few seem to realise it and even less care about it.I deserve no respect here, fellas.
That should be reserved for whoever can sort things out.Realistically, that’s a foolish and forlorn statement of hope that I’ve made, as the only longterm solution has to come from ourselves helping ourselves.
Good post,Sean.
As you rightly say, we cannot blame people for acting in an immoral way unless they recognise right from wrong. Many, mainly younger people in society, plainly do not know what is morally correct because those who were supposed to teach them don’t know themselves.
Thankfully, the ‘ignorant’ are only a small proportion of society. The best we can do is to try and avoid them as much as possible and leave the thankless task of educating them to the professionals. At least they get well paid for such grief. The morally ignorant do not take very kindly to being reminded of this social deficit.
Interesting angle Sean.
I’m not sure if my opening post is that relevant in terms of “right” and “wrong.”
If life was that black and right – every action we take would be one or the other. Should we be chastised every time; should we be dealt with accordingly?
What about “good” and “bad” thoughts, should they be policed?
Frankly, the way the Govnt tries to squeeze every penny possible from the citizens, under the guise of protection and welfare, is disgusting – but most of us accept it, despite the odd grumble.
Wherever there is money there is power, wherever there is power there is corruption.
Some corruption is more legal than others.
Zip
When Ladbrokes opened close to where I live in 1988 the settler was a lovely woman but didn’t have a clue.Her main failing was that she thought a draw in a football match had the effect of making the bet a non runner.She also coudn’t work out a placepot perm to save her life.All price changes were by phone or on teletext.
I was a student at the time and many a Saturday was financed by dodgy bets.The whole idea was to take a few quid here and there.
Just after I went to London in 92 Paddy Power were establishing themselves at the time and all prices and changes were by fax and phone.The Olympics were on and for one of the sprint events it said bets must be on by a certain time.Problem was race took place an hour earlier.My mates watched the race in a nearby pub and then casually had as much money as they could lay their hands on the winner.They got paid out .
Happy days.Today someone gave me a £20 note . Without me realizing i gave him change thinking he had given me a £10 note. When i realized my mistake i promptly gave him the cash he was rightly due.
DID I DO RIGHT, OR DID I DO WRONG, I DOUBT HE WOULD HAVE KNOWN HIS MISSTAKE BECAUSE HE HAD WALKED AWAT WITHOUT CHECKING HIS CHANGE.
I murdered my granny 15 years ago, but since she was quite old, nobody asked any questions. I also suspected that she was about to close my account, so probably had it coming to her. Happy days.
Its a simple quandry – you either have principles, or you don’t. I do. I find it bizzarre on another thread Get Zippy is righteous about Coral supposedly screwing someone out of £400 whilst admitting to this little screwing episode of his own. Rank hypocrisy.
Its a simple quandry – you either have principles, or you don’t. I do. I find it bizzarre on another thread Get Zippy is righteous about Coral supposedly screwing someone out of £400 whilst admitting to this little screwing episode of his own. Rank hypocrisy.
It’s not hypocrisy at all.
Your judgement on my principles and morality is exactly that – your judgement.
I am fully entitled to support Mikky in claiming his winnings from Corals – they are rightfully his. I think Corals have behaved very badly and I am confident he will see the winnings.
And whether you feel my actions at Corals were “right” or “wrong” it does not affect what has happened to Mikky,
Can I not call a convicted murderer a murderer? What is good for the goose PC….
I could mention your rank arrogance in assuming your principles are held by everyone else.
But what would be the point? You’re too far gone.
Zip
When Ladbrokes opened close to where I live in 1988 the settler was a lovely woman but didn’t have a clue.Her main failing was that she thought a draw in a football match had the effect of making the bet a non runner.She also coudn’t work out a placepot perm to save her life.All price changes were by phone or on teletext.
I was a student at the time and many a Saturday was financed by dodgy bets.The whole idea was to take a few quid here and there.
Just after I went to London in 92 Paddy Power were establishing themselves at the time and all prices and changes were by fax and phone.The Olympics were on and for one of the sprint events it said bets must be on by a certain time.Problem was race took place an hour earlier.My mates watched the race in a nearby pub and then casually had as much money as they could lay their hands on the winner.They got paid out .
Happy days.Wow, that was amazing, Luke. Can’t believe she thought a footy draw was a non runner.
Sounds like you had a great wheeze there.
Zip
). Times were bad and hard before this, but folk had rules; wrong-doers did their time without a whine.
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