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- September 19, 2013 at 19:44 #451804
went from being placid to losing my temper at something trivial.
Not being funny Ginge but have you ever considered the green herb as a remedy for this? Last time I went to Sandown I was higher than a kite and it was an amazing experience, a million times better than when drinking which doesn’t even make the day more enjoyable!
Once the diabetes is controlled Ben, there’s no problem. So long as you keep to what the nursing team tell you. I’ve come down from 3 to 2 tablets a day and hopefully might do even better in time. I don’t have those mood swings these days.
Unfortunately can’t even be "worse for drink" these days either. Need to have all faculties working well. Tablets bring blood/sugar levels down, but if I don’t eat it carries on coming down… So if I am "out of it" it comes down too much, have a hypo and I die! So the "green herb" is not a good idea.
Value Is EverythingSeptember 19, 2013 at 19:49 #451806J17,
You obviously know nothing about diabetes and need to read up on it.
In fact, if I were you I’d get yourself checked out.

Do you have any of these symptoms?
Feeling very thirsty.
Urinating frequently, particularly at night.
Feeling very tired.
Weight loss and loss of muscle bulk.
Lose temper at trivial things.Value Is EverythingSeptember 19, 2013 at 20:02 #451807Only on here – from War Command’s merit as a racehorse to diabetes.

As for the latter: it’s not the diabetes itself which is the problem, it is the many complications ( some very serious ) which can arise from having it. I speak from first hand knowledge – and Ginge is right.
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September 19, 2013 at 20:12 #451808Lets not sugar-coat things gents.
September 19, 2013 at 20:42 #451810… and thankfully Prostate Awareness is only nursery class.
September 20, 2013 at 12:57 #451856
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went from being placid to losing my temper at something trivial.
Not being funny Ginge but have you ever considered the green herb as a remedy for this? Last time I went to Sandown I was higher than a kite and it was an amazing experience, a million times better than when drinking which doesn’t even make the day more enjoyable!
Once the diabetes is controlled Ben, there’s no problem. So long as you keep to what the nursing team tell you. I’ve come down from 3 to 2 tablets a day and hopefully might do even better in time. I don’t have those mood swings these days.
Unfortunately can’t even be "worse for drink" these days either. Need to have all faculties working well. Tablets bring blood/sugar levels down, but if I don’t eat it carries on coming down… So if I am "out of it" it comes down too much, have a hypo and I die! So the "green herb" is not a good idea.

Glad to hear you’re managing with it well then!
September 20, 2013 at 13:43 #451865Thanks to everyone for the messages wishing me well. It is greatly appreciated.
I went for over a year with diabetes undiagnosed despite a load of tests. I lost 4 stone in weight and lost five teeth to infections. I was eventually diagnosed on the first day of the Cheltenham festival in 1994 and stubbornly refused to go into hospital until after watching the first race won by Arctic Kinsman at 50/1
My blood sugar was measured and was 45, which meant nothing to me but set off alarm bells with the nurses. Within an hour I had an injection and my first hypo as my sugar dropped to 3 and it has been a battle since then trying to find what seems a narrow target window between 5 and 9.
As said, it is the long term complications that arise from circulation problems and the effect of the illness on small blood vessels that are more serious than hypos, although it is a grim feeling when your sugar is 1.2, which is the lowest I have measured mine at.
That was some few days in hospital trying to outwit the nurses and watch the Cheltenham races on the day room TV. They caught me before I could watch Flakey Dove in the Champion Hurdle but I managed to catch the Gold Cup on a guy’s old Casio handheld telly which had a one inch screen on it. Jeez oh that was some experience, it was like watching ants trying to jump over pipe cleaners but it was clear enough to see Jodami make a balls of the last fence and The Fellow got up to deny my double with Flakey Dove. Still, Jodami owed me nothing as I had him at 33/1 the year before and had the last laugh on my mate who guffawed after Jodami got beat off 10st 3lb in the Hennessey.
On the bright side, at least my days of urinating candy floss are over.
This has been a Racing Forum presentation in association with the British Medical Council, Mens Health Magazine, The Peoples Friend and Hypochondriacs Anonymous.
ps Remember to check your testicles regularly gents. I count mine every morning!!
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
May 10, 2014 at 20:04 #478696This is probably a ridiculous question but I will ask it anyway. Do you use your fingers to do the count?
May 10, 2014 at 22:49 #478719Do they still recommend that diabetics eat lots of carbs because I had an email yesterday saying how beneficial a low carb diet is to diabetics?
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May 11, 2014 at 01:03 #478722Do they still recommend that diabetics eat lots of carbs because I had an email yesterday saying how beneficial a low carb diet is to diabetics?
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I am nowhere near your typical type 2 Diabetic Moehat, having never been overweight; so may be not the best person to answer, but…
Although Carbs turn to sugar I actually found
increasing
carb intake helped my diabetes. Purely because it filled me up without wanting outright sugary foods. eg I often have 6 slices of bread in a day. It is home made bread, usually around 5 parts white flour to 2 wholemeal and 1 part seed and grain. With far less sugar than your average shop bought loaf (and less than the recommended Panasonic instruction manual says too). But by eating a lot of bread and low sugar cereals – I feel no need for sweets, cakes or biscuits, so it works for me.
However, it might be totally different for overweight diabetics.
If you’re not diabetic or overweight, just eat stuff in moderation.Hope that helps Moehat.
Value Is EverythingMay 12, 2014 at 20:18 #478886I see mustajeeb won easily at the weekend having been trounced by war command last term. Just thought I’d mention it.
May 13, 2014 at 09:22 #478905Its early days , but I sense War command , was a pure 2 year old , and the current crop of starlets hosing in across the Irish sea , could well be the same
Happy to be wrong , he may win a breeders cup on rock hard ground , as that’s what is required …time will tell , but I sense this is a rick by the otherwise foot perfect Coolmore
Imo
May 13, 2014 at 10:00 #478909Do they still recommend that diabetics eat lots of carbs because I had an email yesterday saying how beneficial a low carb diet is to diabetics?
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I am nowhere near your typical type 2 Diabetic Moehat, having never been overweight; so may be not the best person to answer, but…
Although Carbs turn to sugar I actually found
increasing
carb intake helped my diabetes. Purely because it filled me up without wanting outright sugary foods. eg I often have 6 slices of bread in a day. It is home made bread, usually around 5 parts white flour to 2 wholemeal and 1 part seed and grain. With far less sugar than your average shop bought loaf (and less than the recommended Panasonic instruction manual says too). But by eating a lot of bread and low sugar cereals – I feel no need for sweets, cakes or biscuits, so it works for me.
However, it might be totally different for overweight diabetics.
If you’re not diabetic or overweight, just eat stuff in moderation.Hope that helps Moehat.
Im type 1 and have to stay a million miles away from Bread or Potato or I have to take a lot of insulin and go for a run if i eat them. Not sure how these posts ended up in the War Command section cause i haven’t read back. Is war command a diabetic, cause that would explain the guineas. Actually I wonder if a horse can become a diabetic, probably not.
SHL
May 13, 2014 at 12:46 #478922This thread ended up discussing diabetes because I had a rant when posting with a sugar level of less than 3. I have apologised to the man in question and we exchange views on a civil level again because he is a sporting chap with a deep knowledge of the game.
I was on a new regime of insulin injections this past few weeks including split doses but it was hellish with blood sugars between 20 and 30 resulting. Coupled with high blood pressure, which I have just started medication for, it has been a pretty rotten month or so for me and I have made an executive decision to go back to my previous routine.
I find Pasta raises my sugars the most quickly and I was advised to stick to low glycaemic index carbs, with wholemeal versions being better and breads with multiseed or granary take longer to be absorbed into the blood. A typical meal for me would need about 20 to 24 units of insulin and the base insulin (Lantus) that acts as your background for 24 hours is 48 units for me. I find that it is hard for me to sleep without my sugars elevating by morning, we have tweaked both insulins but I either go hypo or find my sugars are above ten by morning.
Horses can get a similar condition to diabetes but I doubt they would be much good as a racehorse if suffering from the disease.
War Command may wear blinkers on his next start and I’m not sure how good a sign that is. Another O’Brien horse is already 14/1 for next years 2000G. War Envoy has won twice at 5f already and is said to be having another run a week Saturday. He’s hot fav for the Coventry and that will be his 4th race by mid June, not a typical profile for next year’s classics.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
May 13, 2014 at 13:07 #478923Steve
exactly right , I reckon they are a bunch of 2 yr olds only
hard to know on limited evidence , but have a hunch we wont be seeing so many progeny of the War stallion in future
imo
May 13, 2014 at 14:25 #478928Another O’Brien horse is already 14/1 for next years 2000G. War Envoy has won twice at 5f already and is said to be having another run a week Saturday. He’s hot fav for the Coventry and that will be his 4th race by mid June, not a typical profile for next year’s classics.
Think you’re confusing
War Envoy
and
The Great War
, who is the horse in question. War Envoy is also as low as 14/1 for the 2000 Guineas and is an 8/1 shot for the Coventry, having won a six furlong maiden at Naas. He’s entered again at Naas tomorrow.
May 13, 2014 at 14:33 #478929Yes, I mixed those War Mongers around. War Front, War Command, The Great War, War Envoy etc it is a little confusing.
If you type "War" into the ATR horse search you get 789 matches!!
War? Huh! What is it good for? Absolutely nothing!
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
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