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  • #297114
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    One for this thread in the race about to go at Ayr – Psychopathicsandra. She’s going off at a price to match the name, currently 280 at Betfair.

    #297116
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    Ex-girlfriend of the owner, or sumthink?

    #297117
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    :lol:

    I didn’t spot it in the run was too busy laying something else. Commentator did say "There must be an interesting story behind this one" prior to the race but nothing further was forthcoming.

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    I get a bit peeved when names are re-used from the recent past. Two fairly recent Grand National names that have reappeared are Classified and Blue Charm.

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    ‘Half A Calf’ springs to my mind…. Trained by Bob Buckler, unfortunately it was never involved in a finish – if so no doubt the relevant authorities my have had to do something about that one!! :)

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    I have always understood that W Six Times stood for a shortening of the phrase "Waited With, Will Win, When Wanted"

    I am sure you have all heard the story of the young apprentice up before the stewards after what can only be described as giving a horse a tender ride. Asked what his instructions were, the young man replied "To wait with him sir" "Until when" asked the rather unimpressed steward. Replied the young jockey "Carlisle next Tuesday, sir"

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    Quite liked KYBO – Keep Your Bowels Open …

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    There’s Nicanor, the much-hyped full brother to Barbaro, and Nicanor, the French jumper.

    Also Leviathan, a 4-miler gelding who raced in America during the late 1790s-early 1800s and holds the longest win streak in American history (23), is sometimes confused with Leviathan (GB), a good racehorse imported to the States in the 1830s and contributed a great deal to improving the country’s Thoroughbred stock.

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    Excellent story Bob!

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    I still get confused by there being two Binoculars.
    My favourite name from recently has been ‘Carbon Hoofprint’ & I can’t see that ever being recycled!

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    Names are suffixed by the country the animal was born/registered in, hence
    Galileo (FR)
    Galileo (GB)
    Galileo (IRE)
    Galileo (POL)

    They appear without the suffix when running in that country I think, so Galileo would have the GB on the end on racecard if running in France or USA for example, but not in Great Britain.

    The Polish one was born 2 years before the Irish one that won at Epsom. Unfortunate when horses with essentially the same names are in training around the same time in same country, but undestandable as it’d be pretty hard to have a single name list that covered every racing nation, in all languages!

    Always seemed a bit strange that Godolphin’s classic-winning Balanchine was a filly when the ballet dancer Balanchine was a lad I believe!

    Why are these French horses getting given names in English anyway? Kauto Star
    ? "Etoile" surely??!

    Denman’s an Aussie wine label btw so maybe it’s Irish Denman that’s nicked the name?! <!– s:lol: –>:lol:<!– s:lol: –>

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    Yes names are suffixed by the country the animal was born/registered in, hence
    Galileo (FR)
    Galileo (GB)
    Galileo (IRE)
    Galileo (POL)

    They appear without the suffix when running in that country I think, so Galileo would have the GB on the end on racecard if running in France or USA for example, but not in Great Britain.

    The Polish one was born 2 years before the Irish one that won at Epsom. Unfortunate when horses with essentially the same names are in training around the same time in same country, but undestandable as it’d be pretty hard to have a single name list that covered every racing nation, in all languages!

    Always seemed a bit strange that Godolphin’s classic-winning Balanchine was a filly when the ballet dancer Balanchine was a lad I believe!

    Why are these French horses getting given names in English anyway? Kauto

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    ? "Etoile" surely??!

    Denman’s an Aussie wine label btw so maybe it’s Irish Denman that’s nicked the name?! :lol:

    Saying that, I really do wish the Arabs would name their horses in English some of the names are absolutely ridiculous they look the same, sound the same and have barely a letter different : Hibaayeb, Habaayeb, Hibaayib :roll: . If they are going to race in Europe then at least name them European names (preferably not Polish though).

    Fair play to Prince Khalid Abdullah he always has his horses well named.

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    Bob is of course spot on with W Six Times, as confirmed in the 1983/84 edition of Chasers and Hurdlers. I was always under the impression that it was "went well, will win when wanted" when I was a lad, but the meaning is the same. Ironically enough, W Six Times was actually an habitual front runner and either won or made the frame in each of his first 16 races.

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    Hellcatmudwrestler – I don’t know if the horse was around first, but I am sure it’s the name of a rather dodgy video series, that David Sullivan may have been involved in.

    Ah, one of Henry Bell’s, wasn’t he? A horse’s name like that which you spot during your formative years tends to stay with you forever.

    Around the same time there was a Northern chasing mare called Weewumpawud, whom I believe was named after how someone associated with her pronounced the phrase "Wee lump of wood".

    Weewumpawud eventually gave birth to Weejumpawud, who herself became a Northern chasing mare in due course; and I was delighted to note that her offspring Weeumba managed to win a Maiden point at Corbridge (next door to Hexham) a few weeks ago, despite having inherited both mum and granny’s habit of mullering plenty of fences on the way round.

    I love dynasties like that. Very much the fibre of all that’s good about low-grade jumps racing. Weejumpawud’s half-brother Wudimp, meanwhile, was something of an overachiever, winning the Cuvee Napa Novices’ Hunter Chase (then a £10,500 added class B race at the Aintree Festival) back in 1996.

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    Deacon Blue and Deacon Blues won at Saint-Cloud and Haydock this afternoon.

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    Famusly first choice of name for Desert Orchid was Desert Air I think, but denied as already existed Desert Heir (or vice versa) which will sound the same on a commentator’s tongue of course.

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    It gets even more confusing in the states because we have racing Standardbreds, Quarter Horses, Arabians, Appaloosas, Paints, and Mules, and the respective breed associations keep seperate naming registries!

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