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Kinnick’s performance at Sheffield was one of the most flesh-creepingly embarrassing episodes it has been my (un)privilege to watch
I think Mandelson and Prescott having an enforced boogie on the same night was worse.
Mike
Never one to miss a trick Bill Farnsworth presents the Ladbrokes Referendum Race at Musselburgh this coming Monday:
http://www.scottishracing.co.uk/news-and-media.asp?n=SRC-N10649
Is it an omen that Scotland was last all the way in today’s St Leger?
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
…and Schottische was last in the 7.10 at Wolverhampton yesterday.
mind you, Scottish Glen was second at Lingfield and Alba Verde won the last.
All of which proves I had too much time on my hands on a Sunday.
Betfair are reported to be paying out on the No vote already.
Typical of the general press reporting of the mystical world of gambling, one online column informed us that Ladbrokes has taken so much money on a Yes vote, including a bet of £20,000, that they were forced to cut their odds
from
11/4,
into
3/1
A quick look at Oddschecker showed that Ladbrokes are going 7/2 for a Yes vote.
Maybe they took even more more money on Yes and cut the odds
in
further still to 7/2
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Betfair are reported to be paying out on the No vote already.
Typical of the general press reporting of the mystical world of gambling, one online column informed us that Ladbrokes has taken so much money on a Yes vote, including a bet of £20,000, that they were forced to cut their odds
from
11/4,
into
3/1
A quick look at Oddschecker showed that Ladbrokes are going 7/2 for a Yes vote.
Maybe they took even more more money on Yes and cut the odds
in
further still to 7/2
Yes, it’s like those stories of
millions
being bet on the Eurovision Song Contest or Royal Baby Names etc. Complete nonsense.
Obviously the Betfair payout was from their Sportsbook not the Exchange!!
Mike
I visited Scotland at the weekend to see a family member and have to say that during trips to a local park and then a retail centre, it would have been hard to know anything unusual was happening.
Users of the M6 northbound will be familiar with the large Saltire sign at the border, offering a ‘Welcome to Scotland’. I noticed this had been added to in one corner with a slogan, whose message was undermined by the spelling. It said
"I’m votting yes"
Seems the education system is just as bad whatever part of the union you live in.
Well, polling day is here and there’s been a general drift in the YES price from 4.8 this morning to 6.2 as we stand (8.20pm). NO now in to 1.18.
This is quite unusual as election results have normally reached a tipping point by now, with one side becoming unbackable. The lack of any Exit polls perhaps makes this different. YES are definitely not out of this but the market seems to hang their hopes on an unknown surge, possibly from energised younger voters or maybe some last-minute adventurism from the population at large!
It’s been a great campaign.
Mike
Within the last two hours the odds have gone to as far apart as 1/14 No and 7/1 Yes.
Best price for No is now 1/10
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Mmm, betting on the result has seemingly ended and betting on Alex Salmond resigning has begun. 2/1 within 48 hours of the result is Ladbrokes price on Salmond Fillet!
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A comfortable NO vote, then.
I think the ‘shy Tory’ factor clearly played out here, with the NOs being all-bar invisible amongst the YES campaign’s hoopin’ and hollerin’. The latters’ domination of social media and their presence on the street convinced many that they were in front. Some thought by miles. However, the reality was somewhat different. Betfair ‘knew’ this, with the NOs price never quite reaching 1.50 and generally around 1.2 to 1.25 for most of the sharp end of the campaign.
There’s an apocryphal tale of some minor aristocrat being informed by her butler that the country had just voted in a Labour government. "Labour!", she said, "But I don’t know
anybody
who voted Labour." Likewise, the YES’ers became convinced of their own revolution, spending endless days at rallies and marches, backslapping themselves and shouting the loudest in what was, in effect, an echo chamber.
The script is already written that this was a great campaign by the YES leaders. That’s bollocks I’m afraid. They surrounded themselves with themselves rather than engaging the potentially soft NO voters and those still undecided. A crass hubris-driven mistake that’s cost them the chance of a lifetime.
There was a partying YES campaigner in the centre of a Saltire-bedecked Glasgow yesterday who shouted at a news camera: "Scotland is voting YES!! Where are the NOs eh?!".
I presume he can hear them now.
Mike
Mmm, betting on the result has seemingly ended and betting on Alex Salmond resigning has begun. 2/1 within 48 hours of the result is Ladbrokes price on Salmond Fillet!
Well he’s awa’
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interesting Im sure ……
Thing is , what damage has been done to Scotland in the process, lets say you were thinking of going there for a Christmas break (Im laughing at the thought ) would you still go now.. given the carry on over the last 2 weeks ??
I certainly would not …as far as I am concerned they can rot
interesting Im sure ……
Thing is , what damage has been done to Scotland in the process, lets say you were thinking of going there for a Christmas break (Im laughing at the thought ) would you still go now.. given the carry on over the last 2 weeks ??
I certainly would not …as far as I am concerned they can rot
For once we disagree Ricky given the choice I would never lose the delight of attending the go-ahead course Musselburgh or lovely Perth
Phil
Fair enough and why not !!!
I was just talking about the non racing general public , thinking about holidaying in Scotland ….the courses you mention are fab ,no doubt , for me though I will never set foot in Scotland again , this whole process has sickened me
cheers
Phil
Fair enough and why not !!!
I was just talking about the non racing general public , thinking about holidaying in Scotland ….the courses you mention are fab ,no doubt , for me though I will never set foot in Scotland again , this whole process has sickened me
cheers
You are entitled to your opinion but there is no need to be an asshole about it.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
It’s a bit like criticising a jockey – if you’ve never been one they’ll never accept it off you.
Likewise with being a Scot. If you’re not one you won’t understand.
Anyway – Salmond took the Yes vote from a starting point of 30% to 45%. 1.6 MILLION people voted for independence. That’s a very crowded echo chamber Mike.
In the end I think his undoing was the lack of clarity around the detail of what would happen next on various issues after independence. Most no voters I’ve spoken to (yes, we do still speak to each other up here) have cited that uncertainty as a decisive factor in their decision. And I can understand that.
We’ve won significant additional powers on tax and other issues so all was not lost. Always presuming of course there is no reneging. The leech-like Milliband is already back-tracking, Cameron is re-interpreting what was promised (clearly) only a week ago and the buffoon and future Tory (and possibly Union) leader Johnson has distanced himself from the whole agreement. That, my friends, is exactly the type of politics and values we Yes voters were voting against. There it is, in plain sight, and the dust hasn’t even settled on the ballot boxes.
Yes voters are dismayed but most are accepting the result in resigned (pardon the pun) fashion.
It’s not the end of Scottish Nationalism. Westminster will have to deliver on those changes, in ‘rapid order’ according to Salmond, and will be held accountable by Scotland and its voters. And, in Nicola Sturgeon (who has been magnificent throughout this campaign – wiping the floor with Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson in last week’s televised debate), Scotland will have a more than worthy successor to that arch-politician Salmond.
And 85% voted. My God I am proud of that.
I’ve put my ‘yes’ lapel badge in a box in the attic. I’m saving it for my grand-children when their time comes, if it is needed. Let’s hope they take the chance we’ve squandered.
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