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How could Hayley possibly lack the ‘stamina’ for long distances?
I can’t believe I’m asking this question!
Show me a race over one and a half miles that she’s won. Why is there a marked deterioration in her SR over long distances. I doubt her ability deteriorates over a long distance, so what other factor can explain this statistical fact, Salson?
Ken,
I think there may well be other reasons such as the quality of horses, or even mere coincidence.
To say a jockey doesn’t have the stamina for longer races is just bizarre, and has no logic attached to it.
Wriggle Wriggle…..Salse.
If you cannot come up with an explanation, please don’t insult me by saying my theory is bizzare. Perhaps you need to think about physical realities before getting on your high horse. Notice you’re not knocking the other stats. When you throw coincidence into the equation then you really are in the land of make believe and cockoo clocks. Coincidence has no scientific basis.Show me a race over one and a half miles that she’s won.
Stayers Handicap in the Shergar Cup at Ascot aboard Gee Dee Nen.
Rob
Wasn’t her ride on The Betchworth Kid at Doncaster acknowleged to be one of the better efforts of the season?
One race. Big deal. I could have won that one doing handstands and with one tied behind my back.
Next win please….
One, in how many months, years???Ken,
I hate to be blunt, but I’m not sure are you of sound mind … jockey’s are not assessed in terms of their ‘stamina’, that is horses. There is no such concept as ‘stamina’ when assessing the relative merits of a jockey.
I find your argument utterly bizarre
Sal – to an extent you are right….BUT….there are "stronger" jocks that you;d rather have on a 2m flat race (Crowley for example)
One race. Big deal. I could have won that one doing handstands and with one tied behind my back.
Next win please….
One, in how many months, years???Yes I suppose you are right, I mean let’s face it she only beat a bunch of wet behind the ears apprentices in that one didn’t she?
We look forward to seeing your trick riding taking you to victory in the major staying races next season. Handstands and one hand behind the back might make things difficult in the Chester Cup though…….
Rob
The problem is Salse, that you don’t seem capable of taking your own advice (see yesterday). This thread was a new member asking for an opinion about Hayley. It’s my opinion that she does not possess the stamina to be as successful over long distances as she is over shorter.
You are now getting personal ("sound mind") and doing yourself a grave injustice. As a senior member you set a fine example.Ken has a point. All women are scientifically proven to think about shoe shopping every two and a half minutes; given that it takes more than this time to run a twelve furlong race, it is obvious that Hayley must become fatally distracted during these affairs, with disastrous results. There are also no less that eleven shoes shops in Greater Yarmouth so her poor little head must be spinning when riding there.
Checking the Racing Post database, Hayley Turner’s record in 13f+ races over the past five seasons is 16 out of 164, which is respectable and certainly comparable with her record at other distances.In 2008 she had 8 winners from 59 rides which at 14% makes 13f+ her best distance, with a level stake profit of 16 points. Seems we’re on a nice little earner there!
Rob
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