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Seems a strange comment to make that he’s not ready for it Ginge! All the evidence is pointing to trends for younger horses winning the race!
If he’s not going for the race this year I wouldn’t imagine we’ll see him too many more times now! Ayr would be the most likely port of call I would imagine!
I agree with you TC, appealed to me as one who could improve quite a bit at an extreme trip. Therefore the Grand National seemed a good race to aim for. I suppose he can ake the odd mistake and the trainer is hoping he’ll get better in that department in another year’s time. However, it didn’t stop the same owner running an even worse jumper last year – and it won. But maybe it is different for Cromwell because he doesn’t have as many good horses as Mullins. ie The horse is Cromwell’s best horse so losing him would hurt.
Value Is EverythingAnother one added…
Intense Raffles 25-1 ew 5 places
Minella Cocooner 25-1 ew 5 places
Monty’s Star 25-1 ew 5 places
Kandoo Kid 25-1 free bet
Beauport 33-1 free betJust popped thread up in horse racing section that BHA have approved and reintroduced the reserve system for the Grand National
VF x
Iwilldoit who didn’t qualify on time last year, if they enter him
When’s the entry deadlines? Normally end January then weights mid February
VF x
Another one added…
Intense Raffles 25-1 ew 5 places
Minella Cocooner 25-1 ew 5 places
Monty’s Star 25-1 ew 5 places
Nick Rockett 20-1 free bet
Kandoo Kid 25-1 free bet
Beauport 33-1 free betAnother one added…
Intense Raffles 25-1 ew 5 places
Minella Cocooner 25-1 ew 5 places
Monty’s Star 25-1 ew 5 places
Iroko 25-1 ew 5 places
Nick Rockett 20-1 free bet
Kandoo Kid 25-1 free bet
Beauport 33-1 free betIroko was very carefully minded today and caught the eye big time. He’s my first bet in the race. Not my typical type, but can’t argue with the eyes.
They seriously need to look at the outdated early weights malarkey. Maybe an English trainer taking advantage of it and winning will finally prompt the change.
I’ll definitely add Nick Rockett to my Minella Cocooner bet, while the following all catch the eye
Appreciate It – Trip an unknown, and even though he won a G2 last time, I thought he was handicap bound all year
Duffle Coat – I give him a good word every time he gets an entry, and they’re clearly mucking about with him. Wouldn’t want him winning on Sunday. I’ll definitely bet him Antepost
Fakir D’Oudairies – Of interest for everything this spring off current mark
Inothewayurthinkin – I didn’t buy a word of it when trainer said he wouldn’t be going. Even if he doesn’t get there, off his current mark he has some chance, and fully expected yo see him entered. Smashing horse
Mr Incredible – Rogue, but I’ll still bet him if he gets there and actually starts. Definitely placing too much faith in Sandy Thomson here
Roi Mage – Limitations exposed in this, but I’m likely to get a price, and even at his age, I’d give him an EW chance with max places on the day.
Three Card Brag – Getting brought along quietly, and an interesting horse
Old favourites Coko Beach, The Goffer, and Galvin, along with another regular Beauport could also attract sentimental support from me.
I’ll almost certainly add Nick Rockett, and I’ll 100% be adding Appreciate It, and Duffle Coat
Minella Cocooner 40’s
Placed an antepost on Kandoo Kid
Nicholls has targeted the race with KK, so i thought i’d have a punt
Shame no iwilldoit
Sticking with my long term ap
Monty’s Star
Mr Vango
Minella CocoonerAdded Kandoo Kid
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A rough idea of the long handicap on current ratings. Estimated cutoff is around the 60 mark (144 rating). Weights are made official on the 11th of February. A quick look at the calendar doesn’t throw up many obvious opportunities for entries to bolster their chances of getting in with historic National trials such as the Eider, Racing Post Chase and Haydock/Punchestown Grand National Trials all taking place after the weights reveal. King Turgeon fans will be hoping for a monster performance off top weight in the Edinburgh National on Sunday.
11-12 – 1 Gerri Colombe 170
11-11 – 2 I Am Maximus 169
11-06 – 3 Envoi Allen 164
11-06 – 4 Royale Pagaille 164
11-05 – 5 Hewick 163
11-05 – 6 L’Homme Presse 163
11-03 – 7 Nick Rockett 161
11-02 – 8 Gentlemansgame 160
11-01 – 9 Inothewayurthinkin 159
11-01 – 10 The Real Whacker 159
11-00 – 11 Conflated 158
11-00 – 12 Grangeclare West 158
10-13 – 13 Bravemansgame 157
10-13 – 14 Delta Work 157
10-13 – 15 Minella Indo 157
10-12 – 16 Beauport 156
10-12 – 17 Hitman 156
10-12 – 18 Minella Cocooner 156
10-11 – 19 Appreciate It 155
10-11 – 20 Capodanno 155
10-11 – 21 Galvin 155
10-10 – 22 Chantry House 154
10-09 – 23 Monty’s Star 153
10-09 – 24 Perceval Legallois 153
10-09 – 25 Threeunderthrufive 153
10-08 – 26 Idas Boy 152
10-08 – 27 Iroko 152
10-08 – 28 Kandoo Kid 152
10-08 – 29 Trelawne 152
10-07 – 30 Fil Dor 151
10-07 – 31 Intense Raffles 151
10-07 – 32 Limerick Lace 151
10-06 – 33 Broadway Boy 150
10-06 – 34 Coko Beach150
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10-06 – 35 Farouk D’Alene 150
10-06 – 36 Minella Drama 150
10-06 – 37 Mr Incredible 150
10-06 – 38 Quick Wave 150
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10-06 – 39 Stay Away Fay 150
10-05 – 40 Pinkerton 149
10-05 – 41 Stumptown149
10-05 – 42 Zanahiyr 149
10-04 – 43 Fakir D’Oudairies 148
10-04 – 44 French Dynamite 148
10-04 – 45 Meetingofthewaters 148
10-04 – 46 Senior Chief 148
10-03 – 47 Celebre D’Allen 147
10-03 – 48 Fontaine Collonges 147
10-03 – 49 Hyland 147
10-03 – 50 Shakem Up’Arry 147
10-03 – 51 Three Card Brag 147
10-02 – 52 Horantzau D’Airy 146
10-02 – 53 Minella Crooner 146
10-02 – 54 Twig 146
10-02 – 55 Velvet Elvis 146
10-01 – 56 Roi Mage 145
10-00 – 57 Chemical Energy 144
10-00 – 58 Duffle Coat 144
10-00 – 59 Fantastic Lady 144
10-00 – 60 Favori De Champdou 144
10-00 – 61 Vanillier 144
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09-13 – 62 Mister Coffey 143
09-13 – 63 Mr Vango 143
09-12 – 64 Bronn 142
09-12 – 65 Desertmore House 142
09-12 – 66 Malina Girl 142
09-12 – 67 Monbeg Genius 142
09-12 – 68 Richmond Lake 142
09-12 – 69 Yeah Man 142
09-11 – 70 La Renommee 141
09-10 – 71 King Turgeon 140
09-10 – 72 Macdermott 140
09-10 – 73 Stuzzikini 140
09-09 – 74 Busselton 139
09-09 – 75 Copperhead 139
09-09 – 76 Cruz Control 139
09-09 – 77 Surrey Quest 139
09-08 – 78 Motu Fareone 138
09-08 – 79 Apple Away 138
09-08 – 80 Gevrey 138
09-06 – 81 Famous Bridge 136
09-06 – 82 Spanish Harlem 136
09-06 – 83 The Goffer 136
09-05 – 84 Escaria Ten 135
09-02 – 85 Git Maker 133
09-02 – 86 Pats Fancy 133
09-00 – 87 Gericault Roque 131
09-00 – 88 Where It All Began 131
08-12 – 89 Your Own Story 127
08-07 – 90 Placenet 122Plenty to take in as per usual. I’ve only bet the one and three of my very early four fancies haven’t had entries, so I can look at this lot with a relatively clear head. My new looong-list includes…
Iroko – My sole bet so far. Not my usual National type, but Saturday was telling.
L’Homme Presse – Surprising entry and not likely to come here, but I’m a big fan and I’m convinced he’ll stay.
Bravemansgame – Was hoping he’d get an entry. Typical Nichols runner off a pretty mad mark.
Gentlemansgame – Had one eye on this since his Charlie Hall win 15 months ago.
Hewick – Classy, gutsy, stays and stays. Just a question of ground.
Pinkerton – Bit of a curveball, but is unexposed at marathon trips.
Royale Pagaille – Been waiting years for him to run in this. A year or two later than prefered, but can’t leave.
Shakem Up’arry – I don’t know why I’m being drawn to him for this, but I know the owner is keen.
Stay Away Fay – Gone off the boil a fair bit, but he reminds me of Vanillier.
The Real Whacker – Always figured this was the plan. That Kerry National run sticks in the mind, despite the unseat.
Vanillier – Looks like a Cromwell special currently 3lbs lower than when runner up two years ago.
Chemical Energy – Looks gone at the game, but I don’t trust his trainer one jot. Galway Plate run comes to mind.
Hitman – Nutty enough to just do it. Another one I wouldn’t typically touch in this, but the entry intrigues me.
Trelawne – Convinced he has something in hand, even if unproven at 3 miles plus.
Twig – Had one eye on this since his Cheltenham run last year. Ignoring everything since and is a pretty mad price.God knows who comes and goes from now until April. Of the above the ones I’m closest to committing to are Bravemansgame, Gentlemansgame and Pinkerton, however I’m happy enough to wait until the weights are official.
The best chaser in Nicholls yard hasn’t even been entered. Saying that he wasn’t entered for the Gold Cup either.
One of owner JP’s team, AP McCoy says “Iroko might not go for the National this year”.
You can therefore be certain he will. LOL
Value Is EverythingAre they all qualified? (Maybe the French horse, Motu Fareone, isn’t?)
peter.h above mentioned King Turgeon in the Edinburgh National. How about Surrey Quest, also running on Sunday? A win there boosts him four pounds minimum, taking him to 143 of so?
I can see Mr Vango not getting in by one and uproar abounding as he’s kept out by Elliott’s ninth runner, or something…
And absolutely agree with the early weights nonsense. Go with official ratings and include all races up until the end of March.
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