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    Avatar photoKevMc
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    With the weight compression the UK handicapper will give him around 166-168.

    #1481973
    FinalFurlong91
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    Hed have won off a 166-168 mark the form he was in last year

    With the troubled prep might be tougher this time

    I will probably back him either way just so I can say i backed him for all 3 wins if he does it

    #1482577
    Mike007
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    Owner Garth Broom has urged punters to hold their Grand National bets on Native River – with the Magners Cheltenham Gold Cup still this season’s main aim.
    While Broom has not ruled out a trip to Liverpool next year, the short gap between Cheltenham and Aintree this time round is likely to see the 10-year-old miss the famous race.
    Broom feels the Colin Tizzard-trainer chaser has one last chance of reclaiming the blue riband event he won in 2018, and that is next month – after his comfortable victory at Newbury on Saturday.
    “It will be interesting to see what weight he gets, but his main aim this year is the Gold Cup,” said Broom.
    “If he has a hard race it’s only three weeks to the National – so I wouldn’t advise anyone to put any money on him, because if he runs his race I don’t know if he’d have enough recovery time. He goes well fresh.
    “Maybe next season it could be more of a target – when he’ll be 11 and the Gold Cup looks a little unrealistic – but if something happened and he couldn’t run in the Gold Cup then we’d still have another option.
    “The thing is I think the horse is brave enough for the National – but I don’t know if the owners are! We get so uptight, even on Saturday. We love him so much.
    “With your head, he looks ideal for the National. But the problem is the owners, not the horse – we’ve got so attached to him. If anything happened we’d never forgive ourselves.
    “If he’s fit and well next season it’s more likely. This season it’s more on stand-by. If he runs his race in the Gold Cup I couldn’t see him running, but we’re not ruling it completely out at this stage.”

    #1482623
    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    Time to bet the first of my shortlist Horses, and in anticipation of any movement in the market in the next 24 hours, I’ve went with Any Second Now. Mentioned him enough already, but I like the prep he’s had, and his run last week was decent.

    I’ve split Stakes to get a good bit at NRNB

    Any Second Now 33’s EW 5 Places
    Any Second Now 25’s NRNB

    After managing to avoid it all winter, I’ve started chipping away at a few on the Exchange.

    They aren’t necessarily near the top of my shortlist, but at least provide chance of a good trade, and more importantly, the chance to go green. I’ll just name the biggest price taken.

    A Toi Phil 530’s
    Valtor 260’s

    #1482658
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    I’m happy to stick with my three, but several are jumping off the page after the weights reveal.

    Alpha Des Obeaux was never my idea of a National horse, but his Becher third off top weight was a good sighter and a spin in the Gold Cup could see him primed for this off a very attractive weight.

    Definitly Red has been one I’ve tossed and turned over for a few weeks. Looks weighted to go close and has been finishing his races like a horse after further all season.

    Elegant Escape could be slipping under the radar a little and has been finishing best of all in his races this season. Been given the kind of National campaign I like in big field staying handicaps. All the focus seems to be on his stablemate, so the current price is very enticing.

    Yala Enki was my main hope this time last year and it’s hard to argue with the campaign he’s had. That Welsh National run was an eye-catching one, however as mad as it sounds I’m not convinced Nichols is a natural at prepping National horses. Sounds mad considering he’s won it, but his record overall isn’t awe inspiring.

    One For Arthur running off 10-02 sounds like free money. Runs off the same mark he won off three years ago and 6lbs lower than his brilliant sixth place effort last year after a less than ideal prep. Things seem to have gone to plan so far this year and even I’m tempted by him.

    Can’t bet them all obviously, but it’s hard to resist one or two of them now we know where they stand in the handicap.

    I’m looking at around the 9-13 mark as the likely cut off (66-72)

    #1482660
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    I’m obviously quite sweet on this season’s Becher Chase form as I’ve backed the first two already and highlighted the third, fourth and fifth home that day! :whistle:

    #1482662
    Avatar photoEx RubyLight
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    Why was Any Second Now eligible to run in the Florida Pearl Novice Chase?

    He already is in his third season as a chaser and had more than 10 chase runs under his belt.

    #1482667
    Mike007
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    Happy enough with weights of my grand national antepost stable…

    Any Second Now 33-1, OR152, 10 stone 6
    Ramses de Teillee 66-1, OR151, 10 stone 5
    Kimberlite Candy 25-1, OR150, 10 stone 4
    One For Arthur 50-1, OR148, 10 stone 2
    Takingrisks 40-1, OR147, 10 stone 1

    #1482670
    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    Ellison will be delighted with getting Def Red in with that weight , I already raised the question why are so many keen on one for Arthur , last run he was beat by def red getting 8lbs , he,s even less well off now …also I know he won’t be there but Jesus Native River off 11 6 ……fitz said at the weekend if he ran in the national he’d win …oh well maybe next year

    #1482671
    Red Rum 77
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    Like Peter H has pointed out ONE FOR ARTHUR has been given a golden opportunity off the mark he won at. Took 33/1 with Ladbrokes but boosted to 35/1

    You've got to accentuate the positive.
    Eliminate the negative.
    Latch on to the affirmative.
    Don't mess with mister in between.

    #1482675
    Avatar photoCork All Star
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    Very happy with the weight for Kimberlite Candy. Hope the ground does not go against him too much.

    Death Duty with 10-5 might be interesting if he could recover some sparkle.

    #1482697
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    @Ex-Rubylight The way the novice system works if you win a novice chase after 1st Feb i think it is, you remain a novice until Dec 1 the following season. His first chase win was at Cheltenham, hence being a novice until Dec 1.

    #1482701
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    I’ve decided to add Yala Enki to go with my earlier One For Arthur bet.

    Paul Nicholls seemed reluctant to send him to Haydock on Saturday, but if he has a change of heart and YE runs well, I won’t be able to get this price, so I have taken 33-1.

    #1482717
    Avatar photoEx RubyLight
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    KevMc: thanks for your explanation.

    #1482734
    Mike007
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    Bad news for us Kimberley Candy supporters is that he’s going straight there now.

    A horse with 3 or more prep runs, including the last one in the same calendar year as the race, usually wins the National.

    #1482770
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    I had to bet Anibale Fly really, but part of me wonders about his well-being, and he might not really be getting plotted. He has been very well beaten recently.

    I also like Jury Duty at 66/1.

    I’ve bet both of them today.

    #1482854
    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    Big price Jury Duty mate.

    I’m trying hard to keep things under control this year, and no do a “book”, but he was a big fancy last year, and that looks the wrong price.

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