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<br>Plenty of flak on here last week about the coverage of Ascot provided by ATR and the BBC. Imo, it was like having to choose between Big Brother and Celebrity Love Island.
At the next big garden party, we get to see the opposition as Ch4 takes on RUK for coverage of Goodwood.
The Duke of Richmond, in a press release, says "We are very confident about the ability of C4 to integrate Goodwood into its marvellous portfolio of racecourses with style, sensitivity and drama".
On that evidence it seems safe to assume he’s never actually watched any C4 coverage!
Goodwood are also congratulating themselves on persuading C4 to abandon their usual practice of insisting on a first race time of 1:30 or 1:45, as happens at Newmarket and York for their big meetings. But a price does seem to have been paid for this concession, though it’s one I struggle to understand.
On Wednesday, the first race is scheduled for 2:15 (info from the Weatherbys website program listings) and the first race will be the £300,000 Group 1 Sussex Stakes. On Saturday the first race is at 2:05 and it’s the Stewards Cup.
Now I can’t believe that Goodwood have unilaterally decided to run the big race as the first on the card on those two days – there’s no change to the usual running order on the other three days – so presumably it’s being done at the behest of TV. But why?
C4 are on air for four races each day and according to their website, coverage will run from 14:00 to 16:30 for the four midweek days. So where’s the benefit for them in running the Sussex Stakes as the first race?
The only possible answer I can come up with is that the Wednesday is also the date of the Galway Plate – if C4 are covering that as well, perhaps they don’t want to risk any overlap? But it seems to me that the decision is bound to result in a loss of betting revenue for both races, as well as giving the whole day at Goodwood a lopsided look.
Any other theories on this odd decision?
AP<br>
I am going to Goodwood that day and am very cross now :angry:
Seriously though, the anticpation of the biggest race should build up. A nice little maiden ( :o ) is a good way to ease your self into the days racing
Putting the highlight of th week on first is awful
Suprised at Goodwood here. They have always struck me as being one of the more clued up courses
A disgraceful decision. :o <br>More worrying is the thought it might start a trend with other courses following suit. Unlikely but…….
where on the weatherbys site did you see this? ive seen nothing on there about it.
if it is the case its a disgrace and it whats more it just makes no sense as its not a decision which would benefit channel four either.
<br>Yeats,
I share your amazement, but I can’t think of any reason for the running order on the website to be altered for those two days and not the others, unless that is actually the intended program.
AP
i went to GG once, on a whim to watch Cesare but it was the least enjoyable day at a track i have had – far too busy, massive queues for bets, bogs, food, drink, everything – like paying to be a sardine in a tin full of p**sed up party-ers – not my scene
you could offer to drive me there this year, give me 500 quid cash and a free hooker and i’d probably turn you down
i’ll go to lingfield instead, i think
(Edited by sberry at 3:51 pm on June 26, 2007)<br>
(Edited by sberry at 3:51 pm on June 26, 2007)
Sorry….what was that……..free hooker!!!!!!<br>Where? How? Who?<br>Now that’s a race package…..keep your €3 racecard… I’m having my sock cooked instead. :biggrin:
I’ve had a look one Weatherbys site and AP is correct at the moment. However for those days the races are just in prizemoney order and I believe this had been recent practice on some days – when the times have not yet been worked out.
I’m sure that Ch 4 will have an input but I’m also pretty sure they won’t be the first race on the card.
Notwithstanding the racing authorities’ uncanny ability to balls things up I find it hard to believe this is true; more likely a glitch at Weatherby’s, or as Adrian reports, a misleading listing of the races by prizemoney.
Is the Stewards’ worth more than the Nassau?
Seeking clarification from Weatherby’s and/or Goodwood would seem the best move.<br>
<br>On Saturday, the Nassau, listed as second race after the Stewards Cup is worth twice as much – £200,000 to £100,000.
If this is a C4 inspired move, and my guess about the Galways coverage is correct, then presumably the Saturday change is for the same reason – to ensure a smooth build up to the big race with no chance of a clash with whatever other meeting they are covering.
AP
I would go down Adrian’s line of thinking in that they haven’t decided the order yet and will do so nearer the day after consultation with C4 but wouldn’t think even C4 would want the Sussex first race of the day.
I was there that day too track..and it was a lovely days racing
a few years ago it seemed more crowded though
Quote: from apracing on 5:06 pm on June 26, 2007[br]<br>On Saturday, the Nassau, listed as second race after the Stewards Cup is worth twice as much – £200,000 to £100,000.
If this is a C4 inspired move, and my guess about the Galways coverage is correct, then presumably the Saturday change is for the same reason – to ensure a smooth build up to the big race with no chance of a clash with whatever other meeting they are covering.
AP<br>
<br>Channel 4 don’t do build ups these days not what I call build ups anyway. They cram as many races in as they can and when there’s not a race there’s an ad break. Its quantity over quality.
I’m not a fan of big races being first on the card either.
I can confirm all Glorious Goodwood race as follows (according to the BHB Racing Admin website):
Tues 31st July<br>2.15 1m1f The Bank Of Scotland Stakes (Summer Stakes) £50,000<br>2.50 1m4f Gordon Stakes (G3) £50,000<br>3.30 The Betfair Cup (G2) (Lennox Stakes) £150,000<br>4.05 5f Betfair Molecomb Stakes (G3) £50,000<br>4.40 1m6f Detica Summer Season Stakes (86-105) £25000<br>5.10 6f Tatler Summer Season EBF Mdn Stakes £12750<br>5.45 1m Turf Club Stakes (71-90) £15000
Wed Aug 1st<br>2.15 1m Sussex Stakes (G1) £300000<br>2.50 1m4f Bgc Stakes (0-105) £85000<br>3.30 7f Veuve Cliquot Vintage Stakes (G2) £70000<br>4.05 2m5f Goodwood Stakes (0-95) £50000<br>4.40 7f EBF Class stakes (0-95) £20000<br>5.10 1m1f Fillies Stakes (71-90) £17500<br>5.45 6f Links Of London Mdn Filies Stakes £16000
Thurs 2nd Aug<br>2.15Lillie Langtry Fillies Stakes 1m6f £50000<br>2.50 Audi stakes (King George) (G3) 5f £50000<br>3.30 Goodwood Cup (G2) 2m £100000<br>4.05 Alphameric Vase 1m1f £100000<br>4.40 De Boer Stakes (81-100) 7f £40000<br>5.10 EBF Mdn Fillies Stakes 7f £16000<br>5.45 Audi Q7 stakes (Charlton Stakes) 5f £16000
Fri Aug 3rd<br>2.15Coutts Glorious Stakes (Listed) 1m4f £30000<br>2.50 Oak Tree Stakes (G3) 7f £50000<br>3.30 Totesport Mile 1m £150000<br>4.05 Richmond Stakes (G2) 6f £70000<br>4.40 Royal Sun Allianc Nursery Stakes 7f £17000<br>5.10 Stewards’ Sprint Stakes 6f £20000<br>5.45 Racinguk.tv Stakes (76-95) 5f £16000
Saturday Aug 4th<br>2.05 Stewards’ Cup 6f £100000<br>2.35 Nassau stakes (G1) 1m1f £200000<br>3.10 Thoroughbred Stakes (Listed) 1m £30000<br>3.45 Blue Square Stakes (71-90) 1m3 £18000<br>4.20 Nursery Stakes 6f £16500<br>4.55 EBF Mdn Stakes 7f £16000<br>5.30 Apprentice Stakes (71-90) 1m1f £15000
Hope that helps with timings etc…
marvellous, I think this quote from Alastair Down just about sums it up:
"The BHB has clearly been inspired by a recent refresher course at the School of Whelk Stall Management and some members will sit their final exam next year in the thorny old subject "P***-ups in Breweries: The Organisation Thereof."
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