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  • #7983
    Avatar photoMDeering
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    Surely the C4 commentator for the Jockey Club Stakes (Richard Hoiles?) will be opening up his bank account on this mean machine in the Coronation Cup. He was creaming his tweeds with beautiful superlatives and high praise after that Newmarket performance.

    And I tend to agree to the fullest extent. Getaway toyed with Sixties Icon and Galactic Star and put the entire field to bed 2 furlongs out. It was a remarkable performance and he can only improve much greater from there, and probably thrive on the soft.

    I read a comment on YouTube that said: "only a fully wound up Peeping Fawn will beat Getaway in 2008". No doubt I am following the same lines.

    Read 11/10 with Blue Square. It’s attractive, regardless of who he faces at Epsom. This is a serious Arc contender now – out of Manduro’s shadows and into his shoes.

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    Murtagh rode him in the Arc and DT cut him off when he was making his run. He was shuffeled back to 5th or 6th place. Murtagh has chosen him over McArthur who was very impressive at Chester. Soldier of Fortune likes the soft ground,was a very impressive winner of the Irish Derby and must be guarded against.

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    For what it’s worth, I try to not fall into the trap of thinking that one horse is naturally going to follow on where another from a similar background has finished off .

    There didn’t appear to be too much between Getaway and a couple of other Coronation Cup contenders, even allowing for traffic problems , in the Arc. And with juice in the ground to help the likes of SOF, it could well be the same on Friday. Also, Getaway is certain to find this race much tougher than his last.

    Sure, Getaway has decent claims, but ,at his likely odds, I wouldn’t be going mad over him.

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    Getaway should win the race but it will not be a cakewalk.

    As the betting suggests I think Soldier Of Fortune could give him a run – the big negative is his run in the Derby last year. If that can be put down to immaturity then it can easily be ignored. If, however, he didn’t like the course, that’s a massive negative.

    I’m inclined to go with teh former.

    Whatever he is certainly a better horse than he was this time last year.

    One that does interest me as an each way proposition is Red Rocks.

    Granted he can be a right little sod but at his best I believe he could take this race.

    OK it is a great leap of faith but at his current price I will certainly be having a few bob each way.

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    Hawk Wing
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    Race is quite open I would suggest

    #166321
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    If the ground was good to firm I think Getaway would be a more than deserved favourite but if the ground is good to soft then Soldier of Fortune (My favourite 3yo of last year) will be very stiff competition.

    Paul, I disagree with your point that he didn’t act on the course (He finished fifth after all) but rather it was the ground that beat him as he doesn;t really quicken but grinds his victories out. I think there will be very little between them. Getaway’s big advantage would be that he has had a run but then I was there last year and Scorpion won without a prep (I think, from memory).

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    I am a big fan of getaway but at the prices and on this ground it would have to be Youmzain for me, he would be a king george and arc winner but for dylan thomas and has ran some really good races, some in defeat, he has already beaten Getaway (who to be fair looks to have improved massively since then).

    Youmzain is a horse for big days though I think and his king george and arc runs were better than anything else he done last year, so it will all depend on how he is on the day as the coronation is probably not his long term target.

    I didnt think shirrocco was as good at epsom as he was at newmarket two years ago when he only just held off ouija board, and I’ll take a chance on youmzain to beat him as slow pace on soft ground is what he is best at.

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    Does it not bother you that Youmzain always ‘almost’ wins big races?

    #166335
    Bulwark
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    Not really, I just think Dylan Thomas was just a consistently better horse. Youmzain looked a rock solid 1m4f group 1 horse when he beat red rocks in that york leger trial in 2006 and Im pretty sure he won a group1 in germany. He definitely looks to have a group1 or two in him, he was well overpriced last year in the arc, and would look top be overpriced for this, but Im happy with that.

    He didnt lose the arc last season by throwing the towel in or anything he was just mistimed and really should have won IMO.

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    … Youmzain … I’m pretty sure he won a group1 in Germany.

    Yes, he won the Preis von Europa at Cologne in Sep 2006 and was a bit lucky then. He ran a blinder in the Großer Preis von Baden 2007, when he rounded the wide bends at Iffezheim on the outside and made some 20 yards more than his competitors (beaten a head into 4th).

    Nevertheless the Coronation Cup looks like a great race with Getaway, Youmzain and Soldier of Fortune.

    #166365
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    Not for me at the likely price. Beating Sixties Icon is not much of an achievement imo.

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    Avatar photoHimself
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    Soldier Of Fortune will be no pushover, but I was most taken by Getaway’s victory at Newmarket, and quickly pencilled him down as the likely winner of The Coronation Cup.

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    #166368
    Salselon
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    I wonder is Soldier of Fortune an each way steal, especially given the likely ground conditions?

    #166373
    davidjohnson
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    Very little between the front 2 in the betting. Wouldn’t be at all concerned about Soldier of Fortune needing the run and think at the prices he’s a much better bet than Getaway.

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    Given that Getaway was running and winning at 15f last year and the Arc seemed not to be far enough for him, you’d have to think he’d improved a lot this season to win a steadily run Jockey Club stakes in the manner he did.
    That being the case, the rest are surely just running for places?

    #166403
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    I’m usually a Soldier of Fortune fan, but I’ll most likely be against him on Friday in favour of Getaway. If the ground stays soft he may have a squeak as he revels in it where Fabre’s seems none too fussed either way, but it’s hard to ignore Getaways last two runs- the stand-out pieces of form in the race- and on anything other than the ground he won the Irish Derby on SoF will do well to get as close as he did at Longchamp IMO.

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    I was all ready to back Getaway (my immediate reaction being that 5/4 is fair) but I’m a bit worried by what happened in this race last year, with Scorpian winning after a stop-start gallop set by Septimus.

    I see O Brien has got two in this race again: a classy 1m4f-er, Soldier Of Fortune (like Scorpian), and a thorough stayer, Macarthur (like Septimus). I don’t know how they can beat Getaway, who has as much stamina and (probably) a better turn-of-foot than them, but I wouldn’t be suprised if he has something in mind,

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