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August 17, 2017 at 15:05 #1314151
To be honest I don’t know Pirouette at all, but at least the 7f trip is much more favourable for British horses to come over. If she is good enough, she might have a good winning chance, as the German starters in here are no heroines as far as I know, and also our best jockeys are not involved..
August 17, 2017 at 15:07 #1314152Pirouette is nothing special, Noverre. She was flattered to get so close to Laugh Aloud and Unforgettable Filly and is probably at least 10lbs below that kind of horse.
What is the opposition like?
August 17, 2017 at 15:41 #1314153I’ve just seen that J.C.Rouget sends a Frankel daughter called Middle East.
I don’t know her either, but at least this reads quite dangerous..August 17, 2017 at 17:13 #1314161I have seen this Frankel daughter as well, first reaction was wow…..because you wouldn`t see Frankels very often in german races. But the form is nothing Special in my eyes.
The strongest german horse in this race is probably WILD APPROACH, she was 4th in a Grade3 Race in Goodwood(4th August), so you english guys have a good comparison of form…..personally i this that you cant compare the strengh of listed class horses in Germany with this britain. Although we have real grade 1 performers that could win the biggest races all over the world the average horses aren`t this good.
So LostSoldier3, if Pirouette is in fact 10lbs below these named i think she will quite well, those named would crush this bunch
August 17, 2017 at 18:02 #1314164So you are also German, Noverre? That’s nice to read .
Will you be there at Düsseldorf?
I more like the smaller races on this day where some of my old faves like Tjerk will appear..August 18, 2017 at 09:58 #1314216Yes Hein, i am german too. In fact i am much more interested and punting in british racing. Don`t gambling much in german racing apart from Group Races, Baden and Hamburg
Maybe i will travel to Dusseldorf an Sunday….usually i only go to the races for the big racedays in Dusseldorf and Cologne(Diana, Guineas, Preis von Europa etc.) and a couple of days Baden Baden.
I can
t win a thing in this small german handicaps...don
t like them. But i know your old freind Tjerk:-)Do you often visit our races Hein?
August 18, 2017 at 10:26 #1314219Yes, British racing is on a much higher level, and there are even voices that most of the German racecourses will die within the next years.
I am not sure if our group races are more predictable, so I have nothing against the smaller races, the betting is difficult in both.
Well, now and then I visit a racecourse, perhaps tomorrow at Mülheim to witness the final curtain there..August 20, 2017 at 14:01 #1314589Couldn´t put you off Pirouette. Wild Approach seems the strongest German contender on form. Maybe stick a saver on Dalila on 16-1. German champion jockey on Dalila for Peter Schiergen. Good two year old form, only beaten by a Gr.3 winner, while beating Listed and Group 3 winners herself. She might have been ante-post favourite for the German Oaks over the winter. Not sure. Did okay on re-appearance in Listed company, 4th less than a length behind the 2nd, but you´d have to forgive her a disappointing run in Italy, when finishing 8th as the favourite in a Listed race. No insider information, just a guess that the horse could go better than his odds.
August 20, 2017 at 16:40 #1314622Won like a penalty kick WITHOUT goaltender. The rest looked a bit like selling class.
August 20, 2017 at 16:41 #1314623Very easy win for Pirouette from Wild Approach and like a ten way photo for third. Hope you were on.
August 20, 2017 at 16:45 #1314625Won like a penalty kick WITHOUT goaltender. The rest looked a bit like selling class.
That´s not saying much, when it´s English.
August 20, 2017 at 22:31 #1314686Well done Noverre , I wouldn’t have thought that she is so outstanding.
I had only some smaller place bets and won the perfecta with my Tjerk .For Saturday at Baden I would see a similar outstander:
Adler in the listed with Adrie de Vries.
He is still unexposed and green, but a great stayer and I see him winning.
Opinions ?August 20, 2017 at 22:36 #1314690Adler in the listed with Adrie de Vries.
Precisely it’s an auctions race..
August 21, 2017 at 08:25 #1314709Hey Guys,
thank you very much….took the 3/1 available on thursday with Pferdewetten.de. Won very easily from the front @15/8 in the end…so i am happy
With Baden-Baden upcoming this weekend, let`s wait an see if some nice types travel over….there some nice Group races up for catching
@Hein: Good old Tjerk ran although a nice race, maybe runs in Baden as well….
August 21, 2017 at 16:52 #1314784Good call Noverre and co, you clearly know your German form!
August 21, 2017 at 22:57 #1314816Hi people, are there already any thoughts on the GP von Baden?
It’s the first real clash of the 3y, namely Windstoss, against the elder horses.
Though Iquitos is the obvious one, I see much potential in Windstoss, as he is very well bred (Shirocco vs Sternkönig) and has this wonderful mix of speed and stamina; also he wil probably have Adrie de Vries aboard.
How would you assess this race?August 22, 2017 at 01:07 #1314829I´d say the race is wide open and Windstoss the worst bet at the current odds.
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