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- June 22, 2023 at 16:50 #1652873
I wonder if part of Ryan’s problem was riding for Sir Michael Stoute early in his career who didn’t like speaking to the press himself and didn’t want his jockeys to, either.
June 23, 2023 at 07:30 #1652971Am I right in thinking he has no rides on Saturday? Thought it was odd Buick got the ride on Stratum but I didn’t notice Frankie on anything Saturday when I skimmed through.
June 23, 2023 at 07:33 #1652972Ignore that I’ve had a mare! Maybe Tony Bloom wanted a bigger price, all Frankie’s rides have been artificially short
June 23, 2023 at 11:56 #1653007Had enough of the frankie nonsense now. Spoils it for me when they rabbit on about him when there have been some fantastic winners plus of course aidan setting records I can’t see beaten in my lifetime. Im more interested in hollie and hayley booting in winners. Mute button on tout suite when frankie wins. Cringometer can’t handle it.🤣
June 23, 2023 at 19:19 #1653151Awful isn’t it Mickeyjp? Even cut to him doing photos during an interview today. Very disrespectful to the woman being interviewed. Hoping he will be so busy with Strictly, I’m A Celebrity etc that he won’t have time for much racing presenting.
June 23, 2023 at 19:25 #1653154Frankie seems pretty gracious to be fair to him.
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June 23, 2023 at 19:29 #1653155I agree Frankie is just being Frankie it is ITV who are making it such a big deal.
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June 24, 2023 at 18:39 #1653450Nice interview of Dettori by Hayley Moore.
It is a fine achievement by Dettori to have ridden over 80 winners at the Royal meeting. But it is worth remembering Lester Piggott rode 116 Royal Ascot winners and did so when the meeting was only 4 days.
To my mind, that is just as impressive as his total of 30 Classic winners, perhaps more so.
June 24, 2023 at 19:34 #1653467YES CORK BUT THIS LESTER GUY DIDNT DO A FLYING DISMOUNT!!!
June 24, 2023 at 19:40 #1653469I don’t compare jockeys, they were both brilliant in their trade.
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June 24, 2023 at 20:33 #1653477“YES CORK BUT THIS LESTER GUY DIDNT DO A FLYING DISMOUNT!!!”
One supreme virtue that Lester had over Frankie (and other jockeys) was that you could see where he was in a race without knowing the colours he was wearing. That’s because his bum was so high, it could’ve been mistaken for a weather balloon.
June 25, 2023 at 09:11 #1653510Are they giving odds on Dettori riding on …. Just a couple of things he,s said in the last 48 hours …
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June 25, 2023 at 10:43 #1653529Forgetting about his personality, as a rider I do think he ranks up there with the likes of Eddery, Carson and Fallon.
June 25, 2023 at 11:01 #1653531I’ve never actually had an issue with his personality, it’s a public persona he adopts and he’s a dutiful entertainer, tbh, he probably tired of doing flying dismounts years ago but still does it to please hordes of racegoers, I’ve even seen him doing it after winning a midweek Maiden at Beverley.
He seemed a pretty quiet, unassuming bloke, the one time I ever spoke to him, not at all up his own backside, a regular, likeable, guy, in fact.
As a jockey, I think he’s been world class and even at the age he is now he retains a lot of ability.
We all have our own pecking order: mine is Steve Cauthen, followed by Lester Piggott (most have them the other way round – game of opinions) for the best Flat jockeys I ever saw.
Pat Eddery was the most naturally gifted but not the most astute tactician IMO and Cauthen frequently outwitted him.
Kieren Fallon was very good and underrated by some, possibly because of his personality, ditto Ryan Moore to this day, and I think Willie Carson is underrated too.
For in all my time watching Flat racing I have seen three rides in big races I considered sheer genius.
One was the ride Carson gave Bahri in the Queen Elizabeth II Stakes, racing wide under the trees where the ground was least rain affected.
Chances are Dick Hern told him to do it, but it was brilliant nonetheless.
The second was Cauthen on Slip Anchor in The Derby.
No horse had made all in the race for a great many years, but Cauthen had the courage and the clock in his brain to defy the then convention.
And the third?
This is why I consider Dettori world class.
It was him on Golden Horn in the Arc, turning a wide draw into an advantage and riding Thierry Jarnet on Treve to sleep in Jarnet’s own back yard.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"June 25, 2023 at 12:39 #1653554Maybe 5 years ago he rodo a group winner in the Strawbridge colours and on returning to the weigh room I asked him for a photo with my wife as she is a big fan.
He said not now, I am going to weigh in but I will come outside for a photo when I have done that.I thought that would be the last we would see of him but true to his word he returned for the photo a few minutes later
June 25, 2023 at 13:18 #1653561One jockey who is terribly underrated is Richard Hughes. Superb hold-up tactician (unlike Greville Starkey) who could time his horse to near perfection. His 2013 Sussex Stakes win on Toronado was a shining example of his tactical prowess. One of my favourite races of all time.
Agree with Steve Cauthen too. While his brilliant Derby ride on Slip Anchor is very memorable, his ride on sprinter Horage in the 1983 St James’s Palace was equally fantastic.
June 25, 2023 at 14:13 #1653569Chezza, Chezza, Chezza, a man after my own heart! I thought Cauthen was the bees knees especially with that clock in his head. Even though he got beat i think he gave Old Vic a fantastic ride on ground he absolutely hated. Totally agree with Willie as well. I thought when he was in the drive position no one could match him.
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