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I don’t actually disagree with any of that Ian. The Ukraine sympathy vote was always likely to prevail this year.
It’s more the assertion that politics is normally so influential in determining the winner that I disagree with.
My only prediction posted beforehand was that I thought the UK would do considerably better than usual, which was based on my view that the political angle is overstated. I know it seems contradictory when there has just been the biggest political winner ever, but I stand by this view!
Fair enough and – as already stated – I had a massive “WTF??!!” moment when France gave the UK 12 points!
They displaced Ukraine as favourites briefly and it was something like 5/4 UK and 11/8 Ukraine for a few minutes.
I wasn’t feeling quite so cocky at that moment!
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"“I would like to think I didn’t aftertime as I made my strong view clear in advance of the event”
You were well in before the event Ian…
I aftertime myself a fair bit so my post to ginge is a bit hypocritical but I also post when I get it wrong like I did with Ukraine so feel justified to point out to ginge his after speechGaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
‘My only prediction posted beforehand was that I thought the UK would do considerably better than usual, which was based on my view that the political angle is overstated.’
Exactly. There’s a political element to some of the voting, of course there is, but nothing much has changed in the UK over the last few years. If everyone hated the UK before, little has happened in the last year to make that change.
I’d have to disagree with that Richard, I think that the UK’s very visable
assistance to the Ukraiane would have brought a good few round. It’s
obviously the biggest story on the go over the past year, so I think
that’s a substantial change. The UK and US have probably given the
greatest assistance to Ukraine and I think that made a difference.Last year’s song, Embers by James Newman wasn’t the best song there,
but nil points?. I don’t think there was too much European love.I’d imagine the average (if there is such a thing) European attitude to Britain is this: “Arrogant lot, still think they’re a cut above the rest of us because of WWII, conveniently forgetting they’re an island, don’t even want to be part of us any more, but, remembering 1939-45 and fast forwarding to today, they’re still leading the way in not having it when a dictator goes too far so I guess they’re a good crew to have on your side at times like this. Give them 12pts in Eurovision – but nothing else!”
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Poland? They’ve put a phenomenal effort in and scraped into the top 10.
The songs from second to about sixth or seventh were mostly decent efforts. Serbia’s was nuts but they aren’t near the top for their humanitarian efforts so people must have liked it. Spain perhaps* helped by prominent display of the singer’s arse.
I come back to ‘it helps but it’s not everything’.
*almost certainly
Plenty of fair comment IMO on both sides of this argument….to be fair!
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"“You were well in before the event Ian…
I aftertime myself a fair bit so my post to ginge is a bit hypocritical but I also post when I get it wrong like I did with Ukraine so feel justified to point out to ginge his after speech”———————————-
Have you read page 1 of this thread, Nathan?
Or any previous Eurovision thread come to that?If you’d like to check, I’ve said about Eurovision being a political popularity contest both this time around and for many years now.
Hardly aftertiming.
Value Is EverythingFair enough ginge, you must have won enough to retire again..
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What’s clear is that, while aftertiming is the most heinous crime of all, ancient beforetiming isn’t much better as everyone forgets what you predicted so you can choose to only remind everyone after the event if you got it right.
The optimum prediction time window is, of course, when I did it.
So I get all the kudos for tipping an, err, 8/11 winner which didn’t even hose up in cold blood (big douze points for the UK scare along the way).
I’m still best, though, and basically Eurovision 2022 was won by ME.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Careful Ian, winner hosts the following year and with Ukraine unlikely to be able to fulfill their duties… Eurovision chez Chezza anybody?
“I’m still best, though, and basically Eurovision 2022 was won by ME.”
Sir Cherryade of Hampshire
( A fellow ‘in training level two’ narcissism appreciator 👍 )
“Eurovision chez Chezza anybody?”
But I’ve only got a two-bedroom ground floor apartment!
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I thought you might like that, gamble.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Can I book a ticket for my lad Ian.?
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Your lad (and his Dad) get VIP *seats!
(*Err, when I buy some seats)
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