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Yes, Emily Upjohn was unlucky at the start but was still close enough over a furlong out to win the race … but didn’t. Not a superstar filly then?
Frankel missed the break in the Champion Stakes on ground that he hated against a heavy/very soft ground specialist but still won. Just sayin’
I do think that Emily Upjohn will reverse the outcome should she meet Tuesday again.
Don’t think it’s particularly fair comparing emily upjohn with the greatest of all time hahaha
“Unless it’s assumed she would of been right up with the pace.”
I was expecting prominent tactics
Not front running but sitting just off the pace
That is the tactics that had been used both runs this season so fairly safe to assume that was the plan
They also didn’t make there move at the same time, Ryan went for Tuesday a few strides earlier and that’s when he got far enough in front to just hold off the 2nd
And he only held her off because bang on the line Tuesday had her head fully down and emily upjohn had hers fully back
I see the bookies actually had the cheek to cut emily upjohn for the arc
Tuesday at 16/1 doesn’t look the worst bet in the world given as others have pointed out she was only 3 today and is twice the price of emily upjohn
Hopefully they meet again in Ireland or in the Yorkshire oaks
Just watched it again.
Emily Upjohn hasn’t had to work hard to make up the ground, but the bottom line is she’s still had to make up ground, the winner hasn’t, and the margin of defeat was very narrow.
Plus the winner is the later foal.
Two good fillies in my book.
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Shed have likely been 5 or 6 lengths in front of Tuesday turning in had she not slipped as well, let alone having to use energy to catch up to her
The question is whether they wanted to drop Tuesday in or whether Ryan felt he had no choice but to ride her for luck from stall 1
Ryan may also have wanted to sit 3rd or 4th like I imagine frankie wanted
“I was expecting prominent tactics
Not front running but sitting just off the pace
That is the tactics that had been used both runs this season so fairly safe to assume that was the plan”.————————
Really FF?
Going up to 1m4f for the first time, after the filly has taken a strong hold in two of her three starts at 1m2f – including last time out… Last thing I’d expect is for Frankie to deploy “prominent tactics”. They were always going to go slower than Emily Upjohn had ever gone before in a race. With most it is easier to settle in behind horses. Even the great Frankel wanted cover when going up in trip. Had she not settled the chances of winning a Classic would’ve been severely reduced. Got the impression from York Frankie wanted more cover and couldn’t get it.Didn’t expect Emily Upjohn to be last early, but thought she’d be held up.
Value Is Everything“The question is whether they wanted to drop Tuesday in or whether Ryan felt he had no choice but to ride her for luck from stall 1”.
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Stall 1 might have had a little to do with it; but surely the most important thing is a stamina / speed. When racing at a mile stamina is Tuesday’s asset. She was always going to find a mile on the sharp side and therefore the best place to ensure a strong pace / test of stamina at the mile is to at least race prominently if not make the running.
When racing at a 1m4f Tuesday’s asset is now her speed. So – unless one of those who’s affected psychologically by position (from today clearly not) – there’s was no need for Ryan to employ the prominent tactics previously used.
Value Is EverythingIf they meet again – say in the Irish Oaks – I would expect Emily Upjohn to start favourite.
It’s not cost her five lengths, but it’s cost her something and she’s only been beaten a short-head.
But this allegedly one paced doubtful stayer Tuesday, who apparently wasn’t going to confirm Irish 1,000 Guineas placing with a stable mate who has had twice as many races as her, is a very late foal and it wouldn’t be the biggest shock in the world if Tuesday improved again and won again.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Emily Upjohn was imo an unlucky loser today, what happened at the start cost her the race. But I believe Tuesday would still have been within a length and a half.
That said – even with more progression from Tuesday being a late foal – I do expect Emily Upjohn to fill her frame and eventually prove more than a length and a half the better filly. Whether that will be by the time the Irish Oaks comes around or after.
Value Is Everything“Emily Upjohn is now favourite for the Arc. Has the world gone mad?”
I would say it’s evidence the world is “still mad.”
She’s not even won today, I can’t rate the winner higher than 115, she’s never beaten a 3yo colt, let alone an older horse.
If you offered me evens each of two her and Tuesday in a match at The Curragh, I’d be with Emily Upjohn (just), but she’s a long way off being Arc standard at the moment.
The literal time comparison with the Coronation Cup is admittedly favourable IMO, taking weight-for-age and gender allowance into account, but literal comparisons can be very misleading.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Arc betting is not about what Emily Upjohn is now though. It’s what she is likely to become. Most horses of her physique don’t reach their peak until much later in their three year old career (if not at four)… So the fact she’s done this well this soon is highly encouraging for Arc prospects. For males to give so much weight to a big filly is likely to be difficult come October. So tbh not surprised she’s favourite for the Arc, especially when there is no stand out older horse…
There could be another Arc favourite tomorrow though.
Value Is EverythingGosden ran Enable in the King George as a three year old, taking advantage of the huge weight concession three year old fillies receive.
I wonder if he might do the same with Emily Upjohn?
Those pithy one liners are asking for trouble, let’s be honest!
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