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  • #1355591
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    Times today suggest it’s genuinely good-soft.

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    #1355631
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    Just to let you know MOe Mrsraymo has backed Roaring Lion and Sevenna Star at 9/1 and 33/1.

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    Some wag said to me today that Sevenna Star is only running in order to give Roaring Lion the kiss of life when his stamina runs out.

    I think Roaring Lion might run a lot better than the drift indicates. His achievements are well ahead of some of the others here and it basically boils down to him failing badly to stay for the likes of Delano Roosevelt to run him down. A group 2 winner against a maiden winner?

    I’ll be doing Saxon Warrior/Roaring Lion in a forecast for sure and may pick one for the tricast. I am just not struck on anything else I feel as a likely good thing for third.

    Good luck to all. If the words Warrior and Saxon are not on your tickets, it might be worth buying a lottery ticket :whistle:

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

    #1355752
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    I end up with 3 running for me here but alas none of them are called Saxon Warrior.

    As is well documented Young Rascal will be a good result for me (my best for some time) and I am actually expecting a big run. I’ve also backed Knight To Behold at 20/1 in the hope that he can complete the Lingfield-Epsom double for the first time this century. It’s the Coolmore pacesetters which I hope don’t get in his way. And I was going to leave it at that until I discovered I have a free bet and as I feel I already have enough on the Rascal and the Knight I have decided to plump it on the runaway Dante winner Roaring Lion as on form from the Racing Post Trophy he could always upset an on-song Saxon Warrior.

    Young Rascal 66/1
    Knight To Behold 20/1
    Roaring Lion 8/1 (free bet)

    Best of luck everyone having a punt on the World’s greatest race.

    #1355768
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    ROARING LION 20/1

    saver SAXON WARRIOR 11/10

    #1355778
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    I got a free Derby bet so have 3 now.

    Saxon Warrior 25-1 & 7-2 topup.
    Hazapour 14-1 ew.
    Young Rascal 10-1 free bet.

    Good luck all.

    #1355779
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    I’m not convinced Saxon Warrior will stay. I don’t know if I’ll end up laying him or backing something else, but he’s there to be taken on, especially if there are decent E/W terms.

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    Place laid Saxon Warrior @ 1.28

    #1355784
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    Nausered good luck with Delano, personally I think those comments might continue to be seen with this guy. In my opinion he’s going to turn into one of those eyecatchers that doesn’t ever put it together.. hope I’m wrong

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    Love Knight To Behold to win for a small yard, but took a keen hold early before settling in a clear lead at Lingfield. Will probably be taken on for the lead by a Coolmore pacemaker and therefore a good chance he’ll pull too hard or have to go too fast too soon in order to retain the lead. Am overall a great fan of Harry Dunlop, imo does very well with the quality of animal he gets and runners often under-estimated. However, appears in poor form at the moment, 6 of the trainer’s last 11 runners have all finished last.

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    The Pentagon at 50’s has tempted me in. He has a lot to do but was only a length or so behind Hazapour both should improve for the step up but the price differences looks wrong to me. If it does turn into a stamina test there are a few question marks over some at the top of the market and The Pentagon should enjoy it if running to his merits

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    #1355800
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    The Pentagon at 50’s has tempted me in.

    Crazy old price that Nathan. Was a big step up last time, no surprise to see him step up again. Very, very tempting :yes:

    GL all :good:

    #1355818
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    My 100% book for good-soft:

    20/21 Saxon Warrior, 7/1 Roaring Lion, 17/2 Young Rascal, 15/1 Masar, 18/1 Delano Roosavelt, 20/1 Hazapour, 28/1 Dee Ex Bee, 40/1 The Pentagon, 50/1 Kew Gardens, 66/1 Knight To Behold, 250/1 Sevenna Star, 400/1 Zabriskie

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    I was looking at The Pentagon at 50/1 and thinking of him for a tricast position, taking into consideration that it would be the same 1-2-3 as the Racing Post Trophy.

    Watching the Derrinstown, The Pentagon held his position more easily than Delano Roosevelt did and the latter colt looked a big, lumbering, sort that day. The Pentagon gets claimed by the first two but he wasn’t beaten that far and it was a good bit better than his first run, where the heavy ground made it tough for a horse unlikely to be fully fit.

    The Pentagon looks a handier type than Delano Roosevelt, who I can see as a future Cup horse, and I expect that Epsom will suit him better than his stablemate. The concerns for me are that The Pentagon may not quite get home and I am wondering if he is going to be used as the hare for Saxon Warrior in the first ten furlongs of the race.

    Overall I can’t shake the notion that The Pentagon will be sacrificed here, simply because Kew Gardens looks too slow, even if we forgive his last run because he lost a shoe. The last nail is Michael Tabor stating that although stamina is never guaranteed, they felt Saxon Warrior would stay from early on and that he is their CLEAR number one.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

    #1355843
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    I’d be shocked and a bit sick if The Pentagon won the Derby. I had him antepost at 25s or 33s I think before the Derrinstown then after watching the race again a couple of times I couldn’t see a reason why he would beat Hazapour next time as that was Hazapour seasonal debut. So I cashed out and switched to Hazapour as a possible danger to Saxon.

    And Roaring Lion is a lay for me all day long for the win. Lost to Saxon twice already runs about and can’t see him handling the track I think he is a 10f horse anyway. Just hope he stays out the way at the business end as I can see him veering left and causing interference at some stage. Happy to be proved wrong of course as it’s just my opinion. :mail:

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    Hope you’re wrong on The Pentagon Steve, but I can see what you mean and your are likely right he will be pacemaker.

    I thought at Leop and often do think that it’s better arriving later and further wide, that being said the winner and second probably had a better run of the race.

    I have said before I reckon Delano will be eye catching a lot in his career and possibly not win enough to back it up.

    I’ve got for silly little Saxon forecasts with pentagon and dee ex bee.

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    #1355852
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    Bigger than what he is now Kev. It’s Epsom, there’s no guarantee that he will come down the hill, there’s no guarantee that he will act on the camber.

    Any other track, he should be shorter. He’s the best horse in the race. That does not mean he will win today though.

    There’s been lot’s of value because of his price IMO. I’ll say it again, both Saxon & Roaring Lion, the first two in the betting, both have big question marks as to the track suiting them IMO.

    I’ll probably be wrong, I’ve laid Saxon, place laid Lion, and backed Delano & Hazapour.

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