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and apart from Singspiel and Dubai Millenium, I reckon the winners of the big one have been one dimensional and/or below the very top class
Cigar, Invasor, Curlin? No offence Steve but I doubt its any mistake you have chosen two horses known much for their European Turf exploits as the only two worthy winners.
and apart from Singspiel and Dubai Millenium, I reckon the winners of the big one have been one dimensional and/or below the very top class
Cigar, Invasor, Curlin? No offence Steve but I doubt its any mistake you have chosen two horses known much for their European Turf exploits as the only two worthy winners.
By one dimensional I was referring to surface requirements. I think the horses you mention were pretty much specialists on the surface although they were probably better horses than the last few winners. It is only my opinion, but I reckon the two I named would have seen them off on turf without much trouble.
Anyways, I have never placed a bet on the race and haven’t tuned in live since Dubai Millenium won. As NFL pundit Mike Carlson once said, regarding Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, it’s like Julius Caesar, only without the class.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Each to their own Steve, and personally I am not a fan of the race.
However, I think the "one dimensional" arguement is very unfair – just imagine the response if an american Dirt enthusiast rubbished all of our favourite turf horses as substandard and / or one dimensional?
Lest we forget the mighty Silver Charm, winner of the 1998 Dubai World Cup over Swain.
I for one am very happy for H. Graham Motion and the team at Herringswell Stables (yes, named for Herringswell Manor Stud in Newmarket which was operated by Motion’s parents). They more than make up for the lack of class shown by Barry Irwin and Team Valor.
http://www.hgrahammotion.com/index.phpLest we forget the mighty Silver Charm, winner of the 1998 Dubai World Cup over Swain.
I for one am very happy for H. Graham Motion and the team at Herringswell Stables (yes, named for Herringswell Manor Stud in Newmarket which was operated by Motion’s parents). They more than make up for the lack of class shown by Barry Irwin and Team Valor.
http://www.hgrahammotion.com/index.phpIt’s nowhere near Newmarket.
I enjoyed the Dubai festival. Nice to see an early start to flat racing.
It hasn’t altered my predictions for the 2013 flat season though.
1) Dawn approach for the triple crown, and certify for the 1000 guineas and oaks.
2) Camelot for everything he runs in.
3) Black caviar for the sprints. If they choose not to go there, Shea Shea will win.Lest we forget the mighty Silver Charm, winner of the 1998 Dubai World Cup over Swain.
I for one am very happy for H. Graham Motion and the team at Herringswell Stables (yes, named for Herringswell Manor Stud in Newmarket which was operated by Motion’s parents). They more than make up for the lack of class shown by Barry Irwin and Team Valor.
http://www.hgrahammotion.com/index.phpIt’s nowhere near Newmarket.
Well pardon me, I’m going by the information given in his biography.
Lest we forget the mighty Silver Charm, winner of the 1998 Dubai World Cup over Swain.
I for one am very happy for H. Graham Motion and the team at Herringswell Stables (yes, named for Herringswell Manor Stud in Newmarket which was operated by Motion’s parents). They more than make up for the lack of class shown by Barry Irwin and Team Valor.
http://www.hgrahammotion.com/index.phpIt’s nowhere near Newmarket.
Well pardon me, I’m going by the information given in his biography.
That’s okay. He must have been lost.
Herringswell is more famous around these parts for some mad religious sect having a school there. It’s about eight miles from here. In fact it is actually in a different county (Zip code?)to the race courses.
Each to their own Steve, and personally I am not a fan of the race.
However, I think the "one dimensional" arguement is very unfair – just imagine the response if an american Dirt enthusiast rubbished all of our favourite turf horses as substandard and / or one dimensional?
You make a very fair point, we are all biased to some extent. I just can’t get enthused about Racing in Dubai though. Like much of the country, it all seems a bit false when you dig under the glossy veneer and see the reality.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Sorry but I loved it. Great to see St Nic make up for his narrow defeat last year and he looks like he’ll be difficult to beat in the Coronation again. The winner of the big one will be here in England this year and he is a very exciting prospect. We may even have seen the Kentucky Derby winner!
Some excellent racing and I even managed to back a winner or two.
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I enjoyed the Dubai festival. Nice to see an early start to flat racing.
It hasn’t altered my predictions for the 2013 flat season though.
1) Dawn approach for the triple crown, and certify for the 1000 guineas and oaks.
2) Camelot for everything he runs in.
3) Black caviar for the sprints. If they choose not to go there, Shea Shea will win.I think Dawn Approach is only being campaigned up to 1m 2furlongs this year so he may not run in the Derby and looks a big ask at 1m 6f for the St. Leger, he is built more like a sprinter than his sire.
Camelot could come back to have another crack at the St. Leger that denied him his Triple Crown last year,another year older I hope he does win everything he runs in this year.
The 1000 Guineas looks pretty open this year and hopefully Certify will be fit and well going straight to the race. The Godolphin fillies last year finished nearer the back than the front but then the fillies were at the start for over half an hour because of a sad incident in the stalls.
Definitely with you on Black Caviar and hoping to get to see her in the flesh at either Ascot or Newmarket this year.
Good luck with the crystal ball del-boy, racing never ceases to throw up surprises..Jac
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...Yep, no chance of Triple Crown for Dawn Approach. I can at the utmost see him go for the Derby, but the Leger will definitely not be on his agenda. I also do think Camelot will have a very good season, he’s much better than his last two runs. That said, he” only go undefeated as long as he doesn’t come across the likes of Orfevre. The latter, albeit a quirky character, is in my mind best racehorse currently in training across the world, following Frankel’s retirement. As for Black Caviar, also she should bag the King’s Stand. Her two runs since her comeback has been utter jokes in terms of opposition, and a clash with Shea Shea would be far more interesting. Lord Kanaloa might also show up, his jockey is adamant he’s the best sprinter in the world and the King’s Stand would be a good opportunity to prove just that. Still think Black Caviar would edge them, but if they show up Black Caviar’s last run could well prove to be her stiffest task, not unlike Frankel in that respect.
Well pardon me, I’m going by the information given in his biography.
That’s okay. He must have been lost.
Herringswell is more famous around these parts for some mad religious sect having a school there. It’s about eight miles from here. In fact it is actually in a different county (Zip code?)to the race courses.
Eight miles away is "nowhere near"?
Can we not be fair to Miss W?"Peruvian Chief":3ms8263e wrote:
Well pardon me, I’m going by the information given in his biography.
That’s okay. He must have been lost.
Herringswell is more famous around these parts for some mad religious sect having a school there. It’s about eight miles from here. In fact it is actually in a different county (Zip code?)to the race courses.
Eight miles away is "nowhere near"?
Can we not be fair to Miss W?Fair? You mean shift the perimeter of the town eight miles? Yeah whatever lights your candle.
Eight miles away is "nowhere near"?
Can we not be fair to Miss W?Indeed! I believe Miss W lives in the United States.
Eight miles is probably the end of her drive.
200 miles is likely her next door neighbour.
Mike
Eight miles away is "nowhere near"?
Can we not be fair to Miss W?Indeed! I believe Miss W lives in the United States.
Eight miles is probably the end of her drive.
200 miles is likely her next door neighbour.
Mike
Nah, in Virginia we’re packed together a little tighter than that.
But yes, a stud farm 8 miles from Lexington, Kentucky is still considered a Lexington stud farm. It is likely that after living here for 33 years Mr. Motion has acquired the American ideas about relative distances.
Eight miles away is "nowhere near"?
Can we not be fair to Miss W?Indeed! I believe Miss W lives in the United States.
Eight miles is probably the end of her drive.
200 miles is likely her next door neighbour.
Mike
Nah, in Virginia we’re packed together a little tighter than that.
But yes, a stud farm 8 miles from Lexington, Kentucky is still considered a Lexington stud farm. It is likely that after living here for 33 years Mr. Motion has acquired the American ideas about relative distances.
Depending what route you take you have to pass through a minimum of three other villages (A sort of very small town.) before getting to Herringswell from Newmarket. It’s no big deal but it aint in Newmarket.
Didn’t mean to affront your sensibilities Miss W, I guess I’m just a bit of a pedant at heart.
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