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You cannot know what is going to happen in the future, this applies to HR situation, GW situation etc,etc etc. You can only form an opinion, an estimation of probability , call it what you will
This is what connections do, they form an opinion that their horse is capable and fit to run.. When the race starts, horse enters the unknown, you do not know the result until the event has run it’s course
All the opinions on these threads are forming after the event , where were they before the event? I’ve not seen one person state, GW is gonna finish dead if he runs in the Classic
I now give up on trying to tell you this and wish all the best with your fortune telling
after consulting with the connections it was decided to give it a go.
There was a vet at the stalls who passed the horse fit
You cannot know what is going to happen in the future, this applies to HR situation, GW situation etc,etc etc
You can only form an opinion, an estimation of probability , call it what you will
This is what connections do, they form an opinion that their horse is capable and fit to run.
when the race starts it enters the unknown, you do not know the result until the event has run it’s course
All the opinions on these threads are forming after the event , where were they before the event?
.I’ve not seen one person state, GW is gonna finish dead if he runs in the Classic
I now give up on trying to tell you this and wish all the best with your fortune telling
You don’t need to waste your time or mine telling me the obvious but you have chosen to do so anyway.
What I said in the beginning was that I was uncomfortable with the chance that HR’s connections took with his wellbeing. I would imagine that others who saw the race would agree. As that was before the race no fortune telling was required.
My view is that they played Russian Roulette with HR and lost because they thought that the reward was worth the risk. Shame on them for that.
If you want to have the last word, feel free. I’m done.
You don’t need to waste your time or mine telling me the obvious
It seems because you and others have been blind to it, i have had to Peter
And that is definitely my last word on this topic
You’ll have to excuse my ignorance but what happened with Horatio Nelson in the build up to the Derby?
Fallon thought that the horse didn’t feel right on the way down to the start. Once there, he lead the horse up in front of a vet who said that he was fine to run.
something that I have wondered about and that is, if George Washington had still been a 3 year old with [supposedly] his stud career ahead of him would they, given the same circumstances last night, have still ran him?
My guess would be not.
I really aren’t getting into a argument about this, as a lot of people love AOB and don’t want to make enemies just yet guys!
I do feel that GW shouldn’t have been ran in that race. Personally, i’d not have ran my horse in it knowing how the horses would be practically running on raw gravel. Or how could i put it in better terms, GW wasn’t used to that sort of surface. Fair enough he did ok in last years BC but i don’t think it was right to put him in the race. My opinion, and no i’m not vet / trainer but think the outcome of the race said it all really.It’s just so sad he died. RIP
One question I have is whilst victories in different conditions in other arenas may increase stud value, do bad defeats in the same depress them? Would breeders take a chance on a slight unknown when a horse has not been proven to be poor in certain conditions? Seems to be received wisdom that the runs of GW and DT "were nothing to lose races" but (leaving aside the sad end for a moment) the heavy defeats could hardly have helped matters?
DT probably had done enough full stop and is clearly not a horse for tight dirt tracks,which may keep his progeny out of the US market, but as charismatic as GW was, his final tally of wins to runs was pretty ordinary for that level
Bosranic,
I agree about Murtagh’s ride on Excellent Art. I’ve sworn a few times at Mr Spencer this year but on seeing the mile you have to conclude he’s just a difficult ride.
People decisions/mistakes all the time.
I would not have run a brighton donkey on that crap track, the base was exposed , due to the weather and is not meant to be run on in that condition.
GW and DT would never have won !
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