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AVD for me took 11/2 ew 123 now only 7 runners but nearly the same price( no wonder I don’t get involved too much AP)
Question is what tactics will they use on stradivarius
If they actually intend on having a go at winning surely he needs to go from the front and make it into a stamina test
If that is the case this could easily be set up for horses like defoe and AVD to pick up the pieces
I would think Ghaiyyath makes the pace with the likes of Defoe and Stradivarius tracking him, Broome normally misses a beat at the stalls while hopefully, AVD will be mid div. We know Desert Encounter along with Andrew Balding’s newcomer normally races in mid div but did try and make it once in a German Group 1 to no avail(behind likes of French King,Communique etc)
Well, that’s how i see it
AVD for me took 11/2 ew 123 now only 7 runners but nearly the same price( no wonder I don’t get involved too much AP)
You are not as brilliant at antepost betting as me. I backed Broome AP at 10s win only – he’s now 12s
Oh well at least he has been declared so he has got further than lots of my AP bets. Watch him fall out the stalls now and lose sight of 6 tails disappearing over the wide Newmarket Heath horizon.
Also Mike you may be right about injury to Broome. I had hoped he was just tucked away after the Irish Derby run to mature or get over something like an infection or ulcers which could explain the poor run, but delving deeper he was in the 6 day decs for the Great Voltigeur with a view to running in the Arc as he is part Japanese owned now. But did not run and radio silence since then AFAIK.
If Ghaiyaath brings his ‘A game’ to the table then this will be a procession and it will prove irrelevant what tactics any other jockey tries to employ.
If he is below his best then we have a race on.
Ghaiyyath arguably has the most to prove
Hes never done it against top class horses
The two times hes raced proper group 1 horses he has been beaten, in the Arc and in the prix ganay
One to take on for me, happy to miss a winner at such a short price
Defoe won the race last year and varian seems to have his horses fit judging by his runners so far
Retaining this race is almost certainly the main aim of his season which cant be said for the others I dont think
Wont back him yet as I can see there being money for ghaiyyath and stradivarius so might be the same or bigger on the day
If Ghaiyaath brings his ‘A game’ to the table then this will be a procession and it will prove irrelevant what tactics any other jockey tries to employ.
If he is below his best then we have a race on.
I don’t see the form line that suggests he’s the machine some think he is. He should win probably on Friday but probably because it’s a prep for most of his challengers.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!Ghaiyaath is an often disappointing, sometimes lame and definetely vulnerable duck
I really can’t see what should be so fascinating about himHe is one of the best racehorses in the world.
He is unbeaten at Newmarket with 2 wins from 2 runs and a group 1 winner over 1m 4f. His Arc run can be easily dismissed and he looked better than ever last time when breaking the track record eased down.
To be one of the best horses in the world he needs to start winning big group one races. He may well do that but he’s certainly nowhere near the best racehorses in the world currently just because he won a crap group 1 racing against group 3 horses.
Impressive RPRs and entitled to be fav based on that but has it all to prove for sure.
Defoe I just wonder if he had his days last season. It wasn’t a great renewal last year and then he followed up in the Hardwick in probably an even easier race. He’s a solid horse but maybe now at 6 he’s had his day as it all fell right for him last season.
Race fitness might well be a plus but for me AVD is a better horse both fit on their day.
Defoe did beat kew gardens in the race last year
I’d fancy him to beat these if he was running
I’m hoping to get 4/1 on the day if there is a plunge on ghaiyyath
He is one of the best racehorses in the world.
Some of his performances get people’s tongues wagging as he’s winning by great distances. So far though the horses he has beat Robbo are average at best. In time, he could prove himself to be a top top horse, but so far, he really hasn’t and has actually disappointed.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!RE Ghaiyyath – It feels a bit like the situation we had last year with Benbatl when he ran in the Group 2 I can’t remember which one it was now and a few of us were questioning who he’d managed to beat up to that point to get his lofty rating. I took him on and he bolted up. I think Ghaiyyath might get a soft lead here in the absence of Communique and on quick ground at Newmarket he could be hard to peg back if he is on a going day. For all that I’ve never really warmed to him and unless he wins by miles in what isn’t a strong renewal of this he’ll still have to go some way to justify the rating for me and I’d continue to take him on against loftier opposition. Old Persian was another who had a somewhat questionable rating from his time in Dubai when he ran in this last year and he wasn’t great but maybe he didn’t like Epsom
Interested to see how Broome goes but some of the comments RE his absence have made me think twice about backing him at this stage of the season, gently does it a long way to go and all that. I think quick ground in this smallish field may not suit anyway as he looks a strong staying sort. Doyle is just about the best spare ride going so no complaints on that score if I was parting cash.
Stradivarius surely won’t be having a hard race here he’s got less than a 2 week gap to his Gold Cup defence I might be tempted to lay him.
Yeah it is a bit TinMan. I was against him also that day. He could well impress I wouldn’t be surprised but I don’t think for a minute AOB will allow him to completely dictate because if he does then he’ll play right into his hands. I’m a little nervous about how ready AVD is, he seems a little weak in the market and I’d want to see some support as we approach the race and then I’d be quite confident. Defoe and Ghaiyyath raced in Dubai. Does that make them fitter or does that mean they might be still acclimatising? Ghaiyyath didn’t travel back until late April. All 3 of the past Godolphin winners of the Sheema Classic flopped on their returns to the UK so I don’t think it was the track that did for Old Persian. Ghaiyyath must have been primed for the classic but of course it was cancelled 5 days before. What difference should that make? We’ve no idea really! Can’t blame anyone for sitting this one out!
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