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  • #328723
    Ardrossthegreat
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    Don’t know if that question is aimed at me or Oneeye?

    I’m a Leeds fan anyway for the record, so really I should hate Chelsea! Despite the conclusions that Oneeye comes to though, I do actually know a little bit about football and can appreciate good teams whether they are a rival of the team I support or not!

    I still stand by what I said about turning potential draws into wins being key to winning titles and not remaining unbeaten through too many draws.. Through Man Utd’s years of dominance how many points did they steal in the last 5 minutes of games and from injury time winning goals?

    Chelsea will still win it for me and if this thread drops away I will be bringing it back come May time to have a little chuckle at and see who knows their football and who doesn’t… :wink:

    Yeah it was asking oneeye mate

    Dont mind Leeds meself since our saviour took you over :wink:

    #328726
    Avatar photoZamorston
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    Must have you down as a Blackpool fan then, Simon Grayson did brilliantly there before he became our saviour and got us climbing the leagues again!

    Or you could be a Chelsea fan of course and be on about Uncle ‘Marmite’ Ken! :wink:

    I’ve got Oneeye down as a middle aged nice guy with young children, on a bit of a bad losing run at the old bookies and a Man Utd fan who lives over 100 miles away from Old Trafford and has been to about 3 games there in his life! :P

    #328745
    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Who does OneEye support?

    :?

    http://www.freewebs.com/kytoaho/uusiborologo_350_300.jpg

    or

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1e/Scunthorpe_United_Logo.png

    :?

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    #328968
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    I support Boro, family from Scunny :D

    I see the best team the Premier League can offer grabbed themselves another priceless loss today, making it four losses already this season without scoring a single goal.

    Chelsea have now lost six times in all competitions this season, this afte our Matthew claimed they’d go through the season unbeaten and that they were the best team in the world – untouchable in fact.

    The thing is, their last three losses all came against sides who were in the lower half of the table at the time of playing, but despite this fact, and the fact that Man United stretched their unbeaten run to 29 games in all competition stretching back to last season, some people still believe Chelsea to be the best team the Premier League can offer. Hhhmmmm :D

    #329002
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    Could there be some sort of correlation between Chelsea’s recent run of poor form and Ray Wilkins’s bizarre dismissal :shock: – and not to mention, Matthew’s forum absence. :lol:

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    #329035
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    Still wouldn’t be too concerned about the defeat yesterday. Despite the poor recent run of results they still sit top of the table. If they had been well beaten and not played well then fair enough it may have been worrying.

    At the end of the day they’ve gone to Birmingham who on their day are a good and hard to beat team. They’ve got off to a poor start this year after a cracking season last year and are in a false position in the table IMO.

    Chelsea went there and absolutely battered them from start to finish and were just unfortunate on the day to come away with nothing. They had 24 shots to 3, hit the woodwork a couple of times and Ben Foster was man of the match by some distance so that tells it’s own story.

    No matter how good a team you are you still need the rub of the green sometimes and Chelsea certainly didn’t have that yesterday..

    #329190
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    I agree that Chelsea probably should have won yesterday, but unfortunately points aren’t awarded on what you should have done, they are awarded on what you achieve.

    Six losses in less than four months… that’s the harsh reality regarding Chelsea. And all their four league defeats were achieved by not scoring.

    The worrying factor is that Chelsea were almost nailed on to win their first five games (I think most of us said so), so it’s arguably that they’ve probably had the easiest of fixture lists so far. Without checking I think they’ve got Man Utd, Arsenal and Tottenham over the next month or so, and if they’re without an experienced (or even fit) defensive line in those games I don’t fancy them to get many points.

    #329228
    Ardrossthegreat
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    Six losses in less than four months… that’s the harsh reality regarding Chelsea. And all their four league defeats were achieved by not scoring.

    Yep spot on and Man U are still below Chelsea despite being unbeaten :roll:

    #329243
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    Adross… but Chelsea got their points when they were playing well. Now they aren’t playing well they are not getting enough points.

    From the last 21 points available they have collected just 10 points. And worryingly they are not scoring goals.

    From the last 21 points available to United, they have collected 15, and only once in that time did they not score at least two goals.

    As I said about 10 days ago, United turning defeats into draws is absolutely key. They haven’t come out of second gear, yet they are still unbeaten and score plenty of goals.

    Chelsea don’t appear to be able to turn a defeat into a draw at the moment. After seven or eight games this season they had a seven point lead over United. Now they are out of form they are losing a hell of a lot of points. To lose that seven point lead over your main title challengers in the space of four or five weeks is rather worrying don’t you think?

    Drogba isn’t looking anywhere near the player he was last season. Age and injuries catch up with people you know. Yes, United have three of four senior players in their squad, but they’ve also got a lot of younger players who can step in and get results when the likes of Giggs and Scholes are injured (as they are proving now). The Chelsea lads coming in to replace Terry, Lampard and Drogba when they’re injured are not getting results.

    For me, the only way Chelsea can win the title is if they get everyone back fit and they stay fit for the remainder of the season. But I don’t think that’s going to happen.

    #330148
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    Wilkins out – now arnesen announces he will leave at end of season.

    Things don’t look right behind the scenes at CFC

    #330183
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    United and Arsenal won today, and as predicted, United are hitting top form. Both clubs are scoring for fun, whilst Chelsea can’t score for toffee.

    Will be interesting to see how the Blues get on tomorrow against a Newcastle side that have a relatively poor home record.

    Anyone still think Chelsea are the best team the Premier League can offer?

    Anyone still think United turning defeats into draws WASN’T key?

    Anyone still think Chelsea are untouchable this season?

    Anyone still think Chelsea will go unbeaten this season? Actually, ignore this question.

    #330321
    Ardrossthegreat
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    United and Arsenal won today, and as predicted, United are hitting top form. Both clubs are scoring for fun, whilst Chelsea can’t score for toffee.

    Will be interesting to see how the Blues get on tomorrow against a Newcastle side that have a relatively poor home record.

    Anyone still think Chelsea are the best team the Premier League can offer?

    Anyone still think United turning defeats into draws WASN’T key?

    Anyone still think Chelsea are untouchable this season?

    Anyone still think Chelsea will go unbeaten this season? Actually, ignore this question.

    At this moment in time NO Chelsea arent the best the league says so

    No it wont be key come seasons end coz when Utd go through their dodgy patch with the odd defeat (coz its a certainty they wont go unbeaten all the way through) The draws will be costly .

    Never thought Chelsea were untouchable

    #330322
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    But Chelsea weren’t the best team last week when they were top. It’s not as simple as looking at the table and saying, "Well they are top so they must be the best".

    Chelsea have been top from the start, but they haven’t been the best side in the division for weeks and weeks, and personally I don’t think they’ve been the best side at any time this season.

    And haven’t United already gone through their dodgy patch? This is what I’m saying. They went through a run of five or six draws in eight or nine games – that’s a dodgy patch is it not? So that’s why I’m saying United turning defeats (because they could have lost a few of those games, Villa springs to mind) into draws is absolutely key. Chelsea haven’t done that during their dodgy patch – they lost to Liverpool but played well enough to get a draw, they lost to Birmingham but played well enough to get a draw etc. They are not turning defeats into draws like United did.

    And listen, I’m not saying I’ve got everything right on this thread – I haven’t, my personal choice for the title was Man City, yet they don’t look good enough either. But what I am amazingly confident about is that Chelsea will not win the title this season. Their squad isn’t good enough, despite what people perceive.

    #330358
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    But Chelsea weren’t the best team last week when they were top. It’s not as simple as looking at the table and saying, "Well they are top so they must be the best".

    Actually a surprise to you it might be but yes…….the team at the top of the table is the best at any particular moment in time!!

    That is why there is a table. :x

    Otherwise forget Utds untold amount of titles….they wasnt the best team they just happened to get the most points!!……..absolute bollox :)

    You’re trying to turn football into a science when actually its quite a simple game!!…….you should put in for the England job when it becomes available!! :)

    #330464
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    But Chelsea weren’t the best team last week when they were top. It’s not as simple as looking at the table and saying, "Well they are top so they must be the best".

    Actually a surprise to you it might be but yes…….the team at the top of the table is the best at any particular moment in time!!

    That is why there is a table. :x

    Otherwise forget Utds untold amount of titles….they wasnt the best team they just happened to get the most points!!……..absolute bollox :)

    You’re trying to turn football into a science when actually its quite a simple game!!…….you should put in for the England job when it becomes available!! :)

    What the hell are you on about Ardross… or should your name be called dross because that’s what you spout.

    So are you saying then, that Blackpool were the best team in the Premier League when they beat Wigan 4-0… because they were top? What are you saying, please explain.

    Surely it’s you that’s trying to turn this into a science. Bascially, you are saying whoever is top of the table is the best team in the league. Are you not?

    So are you changing your mind now? Are you now saying that Chelsea are not the best team the Premier League can offer, are you now saying that Man United are because they are top. I’m really confused.

    Let’s get back to basics. Please.

    It doesn’t matter who is top of the table right now… titles are not decided in November. The table is only relevant at the end of the season. This is what I’ve been saying all along. This is not a science, this is a FACT.

    In my opinion, Chelsea won’t win the title becaue their squad isn’t good enough. I have been saying this from day one. FACT. And just to be clear, the fact is that I’ve been saying Chelsea won’t win the title from day one in case you try and twist some words.

    Chelsea have lost six competitive games this season. FACT.

    Since they went on the ‘bad run’ that the media are now talking about (the one that I flagged up before it even happened) Chelsea have picked up 14 points from a possible 30. FACT.

    At the same time, Man United, who have also been poor by their own high standards, haven’t lost a single game and have picked up 22 points from the last 30 available. FACT.

    So are we on the same wavelength now Ardross. Football isn’t a science, it’s simple. The best team over a 38 game season will win the league. That is what I am saying. This is what I have been saying since the start of the season. And in my opinon. That team WILL NOT be Chelsea.

    It seems like you are getting a bit uptight, a bit uptight because when Chelsea were eight points clear and I was saying they wouldn’t win the title, it was easy for the likes of you to come on say I was wrong. It was easy for people to come on here and say Chelsea are the best team the Premier League cna offer. It was easy for people to say that Chelsea are untouchable etc.

    Yet because I was saying all along that Chelsee aren’t good enough (I’ve even given reason why… Carvalho leaving being a major one), people are now beginning to get wound up knowing that what I’ve said actually could be true.

    Now son… go and get your name changed to DROSS… and come back at the end of the season when Chelsea haven’t won the title and admit that you were wrong, and I was right.

    Chelsea at odds on, and Tiger Woods being favourite to win every golf tournament he has started this year, have been the biggest lays I’ve ever seen… and thankfully I’ve made a hell a lot of money out of it. And I’ve warned everyone beforehand also, so there’s no acquistions of aftertiming coming my way.

    #330467
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    Ps: I’ll come back and have my say on this thread in January… whether Chelsea are 10 points behind or 10 points ahead.

    #330494
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    I think it’s too early to be writing off Chelsea’s title hopes.

    The absences of John Terry has in defence, along with midfielders, Lampard and Essien, has made them a less solid unit.

    The untimely exit of Ray Wilkins has not helped team morale.

    Once they get back into the swing of things, they will hard to beat.

    However, as an outsider looking in, I like watching Arsenal’s brand of attacking football. In Fabregas and Arshevin, they have players who play the game the way it should be played. Always clever, always inventive. :)

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