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I think we all know Psycho was fresh going to post – however he still managed to comfoprtably beat all bar a rank outsider – I cannot buy the fact that Carberry’s efforts were to conserve energy. He got it horribly wrong on the general public’s "get out stakes" banker – just accept it. Crack Away Jack was not the fancied horse of the race, and if he got beat nobody would have minded too much.
Speak for yourself, I would guess there were plenty of people were unaware the horse had pulled hard to post. I would have been unaware if it hadn’t been for Mark Johnson. Horses don’t know what price they are
and anyone who thinks they’ve got a "banker" in the County hurdle needs their head testing.As for the arguments about Harchibald, they are just ridiculous. He is a horse who finds nothing off the bridle, and some people bothered to open their eyes and actually watch and interpret the races they would realise this.
JohnJ.
I repeat my earlier argument – Declan McDonagh proved beyond doubt at Dundalk that Harchibald clearly can find off the bridle and respond to a vigorous riding style.
The question posed by Batman in this respect was that the race distance was key to this and that over 2m the horse may not have respondent. We can never be sure of this because Carberry failed to out it to the test when the horse was in his prime.
I think we all know Psycho was fresh going to post – however he still managed to comfoprtably beat all bar a rank outsider – I cannot buy the fact that Carberry’s efforts were to conserve energy. He got it horribly wrong on the general public’s "get out stakes" banker – just accept it. Crack Away Jack was not the fancied horse of the race, and if he got beat nobody would have minded too much.
How can you compare a flat race to a 2m national hunt race on completely different ground conditions? Carberry rode Harchibald in 05 at Punchestown and produced him over the last fence to take on Brave Inca, Harchibald went in front and then immediately downed tools and was beaten a head. The horse has shown this on numerous occasions, yet some people say its the jockeys fault…
As for the ride on Psycho, he did misjudge the race, made a mistake, but for some people to post here saying it was arrogance and abysmal is extremely harsh. Everybody is entitled to their opinion, however to display total arrogance when expressing the opinion is another thing.
JohnJ
Your opinion in relation to Harchibald I would consider to be arrogant and ignorant. Can you please elaborate the difference riding styles between DP McDonagh and Carberry, and how DP gets a tune out of Harchibald?
JohnJ:
The lady is correct about one thing. PC rode a total stinker on Psycho, and as i said at the time if i was the owner i would have walked into the enclosure, pulled him off the horse, and stamped on his head until he realised its time to stop showboating!
As for the arguments about Harchibald, they are just ridiculous. He is a horse who finds nothing off the bridle, and some people bothered to open their eyes and actually watch and interpret the races they would realise this.
JohnJ.
I repeat my earlier argument – Declan McDonagh proved beyond doubt at Dundalk that Harchibald clearly can find off the bridle and respond to a vigorous riding style.
The question posed by Batman in this respect was that the race distance was key to this and that over 2m the horse may not have respondent. We can never be sure of this because Carberry failed to out it to the test when the horse was in his prime.
I think we all know Psycho was fresh going to post – however he still managed to comfoprtably beat all bar a rank outsider – I cannot buy the fact that Carberry’s efforts were to conserve energy. He got it horribly wrong on the general public’s "get out stakes" banker – just accept it. Crack Away Jack was not the fancied horse of the race, and if he got beat nobody would have minded too much.
I think I woud have minded
and his owners, but I have to agree on what you are saying. One of the simpliest rules of race riding is you never try and make up ground on a horse going up hill if you can do it going downhill……….how many winners do you see at Cheltenham siiting with a double handfull and wating until after the last…..Katchit, Mr Cee Bee flat to the boards from 2 out EG………conserving energy? would have saved a lot more energy going past everyting on the downhill run to the lastNot this year it wouldn’t have
……….Harchibald doesn’t quit he just doesn’t do anything off the bridle at least not a lot………maybe he doesn’t genuinely get the trip at Cheltenham I am not sure on that one.If you look back at that infamous Champion Hurdle, Harchibald was going best about 150yds before the last and could have easily passed HE and got a couple of lengths on him. They knew then he was a bit of a bridle horse yet instead of using the horses momentum to poach a lead he just holds him together and allows Hardy Eustace to go……..remember he’s already won the Fighting Fifth and he was in front well before the last when he actually ran away from Inglis Drever.
Had he just got 2 lengths on HE it would probably have been enough.
Look at him when he beat Katchit this season he took it up at the last went a couple up and never looked like quitting………he won on the flat this year again hit the front and just stayed there……….they have learned their lesson but it’s taken a long time to do it.By the time they have he’s way past his best going by where he has finished and couldn’t get into the race this year……looking back at the CH to try and take a horse on with a horse you know is a bit of a bridle horse with only 50 yds to go was bordering on insanity………wasn’t enough time to f*rt never mind catch a horse and pass him
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Davy Russel takes the ride today.
mmmmnnnnnnnn last time he was on him fell when cruising at last
Paul Carberry has been claimed by Meade for Definite Spectacle – I wouldn’t read anything into the jockey change.
and anyone who thinks they’ve got a "banker" in the County hurdle needs their head testing.
and his owners, but I have to agree on what you are saying. One of the simpliest rules of race riding is you never try and make up ground on a horse going up hill if you can do it going downhill……….how many winners do you see at Cheltenham siiting with a double handfull and wating until after the last…..Katchit, Mr Cee Bee flat to the boards from 2 out EG………conserving energy? would have saved a lot more energy going past everyting on the downhill run to the last
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