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A lot of people disagreed with me for pointing out another inept ride at Cheltenham early in the season. I cannot stand seeing a jockey sitting with his hands full trying to take the piss out of others and losing the race due to misjudgment.
Paul Carberry is the last jockey I would have on a horse. When you see jockeys being banned for trying too much, it is annoying to let this arrogant idiot walk free.
Crap ride.
Ok, so he – and other jockey’s (to be fair, such as McCoy on Wanango) felt the leaders were going to come back – but he was still too far off the leaders 3 out.
It would only take one horse to find more (as it transpired) to scupper these exagerated waiting tactics.
Would you say he misjudged the pace, or how much horse he had under him?
Zip
I think the slight difference between McCoy on Wanango and Carberry on Psycho was that the former took at least one flight rather less than fluently at or around half distance, after which he was always having to do too much. I didn’t see Psycho have his progress checked by any such jumping hesitancies, just one whopping one from the rider.
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You could see him taking a pull approaching the 2nd last when he must have had ten lengths to make up. I agree it was complete showboating – and he [and more importantly thousands of punters] has come unstuck because of it. It was a shocker of a ride.
Librettist, out of the all the posts on this thread, you were the only one to explain why you think it was a "Crap" ride. Everyone else just said it was abysmal and a shocker blah blah…..However I do disagree with you, I think it was a misjudgement, I dont think Carberry is arrogant in the slightest. He has a unique ability to get horses to jump and travel for him, just like Timmy Murphy. Anybody who bothered to watch Psycho’s previous run at Leopardstown would understand why he needed to be produced very late, Carberry did just that when he got over the last and unfortunately Silver Jaro proved too good.
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I have no problem with Paul Carberry’s ride but then again I backed Silver Jaro.
Quite why a horse with the ability to get in the frame in the Pierce and whose long suit is stamina was available at 66-1 in what would be a more strongly run race I don’t know.
Incidentally I haven’t seen any evidence that Psycho would have a tendency to stop in front. Connections just like playing the handicap game – which means not winning too far – and this time they were outfoxed. I would not however be surprised if he ultimately proves up to running in the Champion Hurdle next year.
"Quite why a horse with the ability to get in the frame in the Pierce and whose long suit is stamina was available at 66-1 in what would be a more strongly run race I don’t know."
The trainer stated in a post-race interview on Racing UK, that they thought the going had gone against the horse and he had been very pessimistic about the horses chances.
Colin
How so? The ground for the Pierse was Heavy whilst at the Christmas festival it was a good second on Good to Yielding. For me, the ground on Friday was no better than Yielding. Hogan stated in the Post in the morning that he thought it had a good chance.
I had a bad day on Thursday backing horses that wanted decent ground ie usual Cheltenham mode. I switched to looking for horses that could handle soft ground well on Friday and got it back.
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I did not back anything at Cheltenham this week, so I have no axe to grind. But his ride on Psycho was the most incredible example of Carberry [b:34yg2qr5]showboating since Harchibald in the 2005 Champion Hurdle.
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well documented that harchibald stops when hits front, but his ride on Psycho was the worst i seen of the week……..
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I did not back anything at Cheltenham this week, so I have no axe to grind. But his ride on Psycho was the most incredible example of Carberry [b:34nah69s]showboating since Harchibald in the 2005 Champion Hurdle.
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well documented that harchibald stops when hits front,……..
Like he did at Dundalk??? Different jockey (the McCoy-esqu McDonagh) and you see a different Harchibald! Funny how he ran so dismally at Cheltenham with Carberry back on board – maybe the horse thought "oh god I’ve got this eejit on board again who strangles me till the final furlong unlike that guy at Dundalk who rode me like a normal rider – I know I’ll down tools today"
it was run over 2miles
i wasnt refering to him as a non stayer but a flat race over shorter than a 2mile over timber is a big difference, thats why i wouldnt compare Dundalks win to Carbury giving him a bad ride..
We’ll never know now anyway, the horse is obviously past his prime and the argument about whether a different jockey would have won the 2005 CH or not will no doubt resurface everytime Carberry makes a cock up a la Psycho.
We were reminded in another thread of two of Tommy Carberry’s many great successes (Inkslinger’s 1973 festival double). Paul isn;t a patch on his father. Tommy may not have been as singularly obsessed about the way he looked in the saddle as his son is, but he was a MUCH better pilot. A genuine Irish hero.
i remember watching the festival a few years back and John Fracombe (cant think of other pundit) was saying that Paul Carberry had the best racing style than any other jockey at the time and thats from a former great, but totaly agree does himself no favours when that happens – Psycho
Didn’t John Francome also point out that Carberry gave Crack Away Jack an almost identical ride to the one he gave Psycho, and won.
I think people are being a bit harsh on Paul Carberry.
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I like Carberry reminds me of Andy Turnell Philip Hide Martin Blackshaw etc but in this case he definately made a hooch of it in my opinion…….I very seldom critisise jockeys having ridden a lot you soon learn how difficult a job it is…….but that was just silly…….keep that sort of riding for Hexam when the chances are the leader wont run on like a tiger are very high……….you simply don’t do that at Cheltenham if you have the horse under you……….he messed up good and proper and had a ton of horse under him and absolutely no reason to wait.
He’s not a bridle horse and he rode him like one.
Ruby took it up before the last in Ireland and the horse ran on and won by 5 lengths………showboating cost PC the race.
I think what’s been missed by some is the way the horse went to post and travelled in the early stages of the race. Excellent commentator Mark Johnson singled the horse out before the race as going badly to post, pulling hard and way to free as he was early on in the race and Carberry did a great job trying to get it settled in my opinion.I think it’s quite possible if other jockeys had rode the horse it would have been unplaced and not a word would have been said apart from him having pulled his chance away, we will never know but personally if I’d backed the beast each way and taking everything into account I would be very happy to get my money back.
Didn’t John Francome also point out that Carberry gave Crack Away Jack an almost identical ride to the one he gave Psycho, and won.
I think people are being a bit harsh on Paul Carberry.
Totally agree Himself, he produced Psycho exactly the same way as he produced Crack Away jack over the last, just didn’t work out for him. As for the arguments about Harchibald, they are just ridiculous. He is a horse who finds nothing off the bridle, and some people bothered to open their eyes and actually watch and interpret the races they would realise this.
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