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I know Sir Henry is in desperate need of my advice so here goes..
We hear much of how confidence is so much part of a horse’s performance and poor Bullet Train’s must be shot to pieces. Day in day out he tries his best and all he has to show for it is a distant view of Frankel’s arse, whether it be on the Newmarket gallops or the racecourse.
Now, he was fourth in a group 1 yesterday and has other form at group level. Surely for his own well being his winning a little conditions event should be considered, if nothing else a few more wins combined with his breeding would make him an attractive stallion proposition.
Having said all that if someone comes on and says Frankel’s lead horse wouldn’t improve for a win and needs all his energy for his main job….I’ll shut up.
Stu
Slightly off topic, but i backed Bullet Train for the Derby, and tuned in last minute because i was busy that day – just in time to see Juddmonte’s second colours streaking clear. I punched the air before realising that for some reason the shorter-priced Workforce was running in the second colours for some reason…..
Back to the opening post – the formbook reads like the horse has lost the plot since the Derby.
Do you think he struggles to sleep at night? "Ahhh that blinkin brother of mine!!
It’s always about HIM! I can’t stand him. I can’t STAND him!! It could have been me. I could have been a contender!!!"I reckon he’ll end up a hopeless drunk boring other horses in bars about how his brother has destroyed his life "I ran in the Derby once you know!!!" "Yeah yeah Bullet Train, sure you did mate."
It’a a bit like Anelka and his brothers. Serena and Venus and their sisters. The wind beneath their wings.
I am sure he has a pretty cushy life at Warren Place.
"this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of rhythm, power and majesty: the undisputed champion of the world!!!"
"Confidence" is not (at least not in this sense of the word) something horses have.
Bullet Train likes tolead
, he just as well lead Frankel and win good prize money for finishing fourth than winning a little race. Twice Over was given a couple of "confidence boosters" earlier in his career, but that was to do with not wanting to lead/win. It got him back in to the habit. There is no reason to give Bullet Train a "confidence booster" because he actually likes leading (and for lead you can substitute the word "win").
It’s like the sometimes used "knows where the winning post is". No horse actually "knows" where the post is… It’s just something to say that sounds good, when a horse wants to be in front. Giving horses emotions of humans.Value Is Everything
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They’ll keep running him as Frankel’s pacemaker and then ease him right off when beaten. His handicap mark’ll drop to 84 and he’ll make all to go down in the record books as Sir Henry’s first Cambridgeshire winner.
See; there is a plan.
Trouble is his handicap mark should probably go up after yesterday’s run. He deserves a chance at stud where he could eventually prove himself superior to his close relative.
Trouble is his handicap mark should probably go up after yesterday’s run. He deserves a chance at stud where he could eventually prove himself superior to his close relative.
I’m assuming you mean Noble Mission!
Have you ever actually SEEN Frankel EF?"this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of rhythm, power and majesty: the undisputed champion of the world!!!"
Trouble is his handicap mark should probably go up after yesterday’s run. He deserves a chance at stud where he could eventually prove himself superior to his close relative.
I’m assuming you mean Noble Mission!
Have you ever actually SEEN Frankel EF?What is the title thread?
Yes but looks count for very little, Frankel is not a great walker but has a magnificent stride in a canter or gallop. It is his stride that is probably responsible for his freakish ability. Bullet Train as a son of Sadler’s Wells would probably represent much better value for money for breeders. Galileo while Teofilio and New Approach have made encouraging starts at stud, is not yet proven as a sire of sires, though I suspect he will surpass Montjeu in that respect. Galileo has sired several horses of superior ability to himself, Frankel would have a very small chance of siring something within 7lbs of his ability. Logically Bullet Train has a much better chance of siring a better performer than himself even with less choice mares.
Do you have a list of horses Galileo has sired who were superior to him on the track? Presume Frankel is one, who are the others?
The problem would be the quality of mares he would be sent no?
Even if Frankel could only produce something 7lbs inferior it would still be pretty special.
Do you think Frankel not being a good walker will put people off? "He is the best horse in the world darling!" "Yes but he walks funny."
"this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of rhythm, power and majesty: the undisputed champion of the world!!!"
Frankel and Rip Van Winkle (equal), perhaps several was an exaggeration lol.
Perhaps to illustrate the monumental burden of expectation that Frankel faces as a stallion, one should look at Montjeu. An outstanding sire but his progeny within 7lbs of him reads; Hurricane Run, Authorized, Motivator and Fame and Glory. He has had large books and the best mares.
Galileo has sired several horses of superior ability to himself, Frankel would have a very small chance of siring something within 7lbs of his ability. Logically Bullet Train has a much better chance of siring a better performer than himself even with less choice mares.
If Frankel sires horses 8 lbs worse than himself, they’d still be better than Galileo was.
If (in ability terms) Frankel is one of, if not the best horse you’ll ever likely see – then he’s very unlikely to sire a horse better than himself. Galileo had/has every chance of siring a horse better than Galileo given his breeding.
Value Is EverythingBoth Galileo and Frankel were/are good movers in their faster paces.
Value Is EverythingThe problem would be the quality of mares he would be sent no?
Even if Frankel could only produce something 7lbs inferior it would still be pretty special.
Do you think Frankel not being a good walker will put people off? "He is the best horse in the world darling!" "Yes but he walks funny."
I know he is the best horse in the world but his ability has a singular freakish trait that is seldom passed on. Brigadier Gerard was afforded some of the best mares possible but was a bad sire. He was mated with Stilvi, who produced top class racehorses from much lesser racehorses, and produced a relatively poor animal. Admittedly The Brigadier was not as well bred as Frankel, but one could argue that Bullet Train is better bred than both of them!
Ginger using the RP ratings on their database; Frankel 139, Galileo 132, as a stallion it lists progeny by their RP ratings.
Ginger using the RP ratings on their database; Frankel 139, Galileo 132, as a stallion it lists progeny by their RP ratings.
By Racing Post may be.
Point is Frankel is so much better than Galileo, so it is far easier for Galileo to sire a horse better than himself, than it is for Frankel to do the same.
However, it may well be that Galileo (or Sea The Stars) or Bullet Train is a better sire than Frankel. Frankly my dear, I don’t give a damn.
Can we celebrate this great
race
horse for what he is?
Value Is EverythingBullet Train, whom this thread is about, deserves the chance at stud as an exceptionally well-bred pattern race winner.
There appears to be much naivete when it comes to racehorse vs stallion. In fact it is probably much easier to back a loser as a stallion than a racehorse.
Dubai Millennium, Ajdal and of course the 1983 All-Ireland hide ‘n’ seek champion never got the chance to prove how good they could have been through no fault of their own. On the racecourse Affirmed beat Alydar yet in the breeding sheds Alydar was vastly superior.
It’s always about HIM! I can’t stand him. I can’t STAND him!! It could have been me. I could have been a contender!!!"
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