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  • #17130
    Avatar photoRubyisgodinthesaddle
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    Runs 2moro in Leapardstown in the last race.

    Big fancy for this lad from the stable.

    Already well supported on Betfair <!– s:wink: –>:wink:<!– s:wink: –>

    #334236
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    I also got a good word for this fella. Pity some people can’t wait to until morning to back on Betfair, everybody would get a better price if he was around 6/1 on Betfair overnight :x

    #334237
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    Get in early in the shops. I reckon he be around 5/2,9/4,2/1,

    They take a few bob at that price and then collapse it if the real cash comes

    #334253
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    Ah here what were the greedy fecks at?I got good word for it last night but told to wait until morning so not to ruin the price and hopefully would get 5’s or 6’s-can only get 7/4 at the minute :x Though they do expect the win and that could seem a nice price come this evening….. :?

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    Green as grass!

    He looks like he’ll improve a lot for that experience :)

    #334290
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    Very Hairy moments on the turn in.

    Robbie won that race. I can count the number of times a horse i fancied in a bumper on tat inner track off a slow pace has been murdered when he needed a run.

    If u watch very closely he gives him a kick in the belly and barges his way. Won the race that move.

    #334304
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    Holy god my heart was in my mouth for that 1! Felt Robbie was very good in the last 2 furlongs but by god if he hadn’t won i would’ve been coursing him,felt there was no need for him to get himself so badly stuck in behind horses! But he won so all’s good!

    #334307
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    Thanks for that Ruby….only managed 6/4 by the time I got to it and was ready to throw the slip away,but all’s well that ends well !!

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    Gordon Elliot this is why I think he should of been NH trainer of the year, his £’s are never put to waste, can’t remember last time one of his serious punts was foiled.

    Class trainer, set to be one of the best in the future.

    #334313
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    Beautiful Sound 16’s into 5’s yesterday Mr Wilson.

    #334325
    Avatar photoFran the man
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    Ah Gordon’s a good man for a gamble surely and i regularly get word and am definitely in profit but money does go to waste from time to time,3 that come to mind are Imperial storm,hesaposer and only the other day Trendelenburg had the money down and didn’t deliver! :(

    They thought beautiful sound had a decent e/w chance yesterday but don’t think they were on, i’d say the odds getting cut had a lot to do with the fact a Gordon Elliot horse got in as a reserve and few people seen odds shortening and it snowballed from there!

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    Seems daft logic for a punter to follow FTM – if he gets in your on at 16/1 and if he doesn’t you get a refund.

    There’s no downside to taking the early price – there is a downside to taking unders though.

    #334344
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    Seems daft logic for a punter to follow FTM – if he gets in your on at 16/1 and if he doesn’t you get a refund.

    There’s no downside to taking the early price – there is a downside to taking unders though.

    Ok i’ll try explain again,there have been times in the past where horses have got into races as reserves and landed gambles!Elliot has done this before! Once Beautiful sound did get in his odds were cut and some punters may have felt there was a gamble going on again and decided to get on,the shorter the odds got the more people felt a big gamble was going on and hence the snowball effect!

    #334348
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    Well now we’ve gone from one extreme to the other – as a bookmaker there’d be no reason to cut the horse on the basis that it runs, doing that will screw either the bookmaker (in the form of offering better value than he should on the others in the race as he/she has BS at a bigger price than the chance reflects) or the punter (by betting to a far greater percentage than a bookie should).

    Either way the only info that wasn’t available before the race was the jockey – I was willing to take the risk that there could be a dud/less favourable jockey riding but as I fancied another in the race I backed both Beautiful Sound and Venalmar (who ran dismally).

    I fully understand the crowd mentality though it seems a strange one to get involved with purely on the basis that there’s been money for it, it’s not a Tony Martin duck egg job, all the form is there on display, the horse is unbeaten etc. I guess the crowd mentality in these big handicaps is why bookmakers are still around :)

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