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  • #134505
    Friggo
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    When anyone sells a horse they have lost the control regarding its well-being. The film Black Beauty relates what can happen. So it’s pointless getting back to previous owners.

    Nor does every horse owner wish to keep an animal thro’ till its later years.

    Not willing to/being able to keep a horse beyond it’s best days is one thing, selling him to a tinker for a single pound is quite another!

    #134507
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    I agree Friggo.

    However, some people classed as “Tinkersâ€

    Backing two runners is the relentless pursuit of value. Backing each way is a shortcut to the poor house. Only 7% make a long term profit.

    #134521
    moehat
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    when we had our pony and I knew very little about looking after them I had a friend whose dad was a traveller – if ever I had a problem he was the first person that I asked for help, he had forgotten more about horses than most people will ever know, so I hope that all travellers won’t be tarred with the same brush…all I could think about when I saw this on the news was how glad I was that I was able to keep Rosie till she died, but there were times when it was a struggle and I was tempted to sell her on…it’s such a huge commitment buying a horse or pony and you’re talking about a possible lifespan of 30 years and none of us know how our own lives will pan out…perhaps Black Beauty is as relevant a book now as when it was written, as it was meant to teach people how to look after horses with love and respect…

    #134574
    Firestorm
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    To some owners and I stress the word SOME their horses are no more than a buisness venture, for whatever disipline they were bought for, there is NO particular love of the horse…When it is winning or being placed the horse is Wonderful, once that stops for whatever reason then unfortunatley the future could look bleak…You would hope that potential owners are checked so to avoid horses ending up on the scrap heap destined only for a short life of misery untill the bullet ends it….

    Off all the poor horses, ponies etc that have been discovered at this farm how many of them were sold knowing what their fate may be….Were I live we are the most populated place in Great Britain for horses , and I personally know of owners who have sold their horse/pony who is no longer required ! for next to nothing, and have been well aware that it was going for meat..

    I bought my horse when he was rising 5 , he is 17 now , we dont compete seriously anymore but if he suddenly could not be ridden again or in deed I couldnt ride again he would be retired and kept with me till he died..and their are thousands of owners who would do the same, but you will always have the heartless eliment owners , and the dispicable buyer as we have seen unfolding….

    Apologises for going on but I am so angry and upset by what has happened …. :(

    #157225
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    I’m afraid things look to have taken a turn for the more serious in this case, with a judge’s ruling indicating that 29 of the animals can return to Farmer Gray and that the remainder may be sold on (reading between the lines: meat).

    Full details are available at http://www.amershamhorses.com

    I need hardly add that the silence from Animal Aid has been, and continues to be, absolutely deafening. Talk about selective picking of your causes.

    gc

    Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.

    #157234
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    I need hardly add that the silence from Animal Aid has been, and continues to be, absolutely defending. Talk about selective picking of your causes.

    While I don’t agree with Animal Aid’s stance on horseracing I think you’re being a bit hard on them in this case Jeremy.

    This truly awful and sad case is being handled by the RSPCA, the ILPH and Redwings. Animal Aid have provided evidence to the RSPCA to further the case for this ridiculous decision to be overturned and have made themselves available to the above organisations should they be able to provide any further help.

    #157238
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    Maybe so, CR, but why – unless anything has changed in the last couple of hours since I checked – has this normally so voluble organisation not seen fit to make as much noise about this particular travesty on its website as it has with other issues?

    "Defening silence" may not have been the most accurate choice of words from me, in retrospect, but AA lays itself bare to accusations of championing causes only meritocratically if it can’t show as much demonstrable passion for this as, say, animal testing or the National (whose one death this year may quickly look small beer numerically, compared to how many of the Amersham farm horses may now be slaughterhouse-bound following the judge’s decision).

    That’s surely self-defeating for an organisation whose sole raison d’etre is given to be an end to the needless suffering of all animals, isn’t it?

    gc

    Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.

    #157275
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    This is disgusting!!!
    There is a website amershamhorses.com were you can sign a petition to get the verdict overturned, over 1,400 signatures already. Get signing!

    #157348
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    also they have infact returned some donkys and ponies back to the tosser. althought there are petitions around trying to stop this….. the bulk of the rest are due to be sold at sales…its a discrace….. :twisted:

    #157374
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    Disgraceful ruling by the judge, shame on him!! I am so angry about this. Have signed the petition and let lots of other people know about it.

    How can the other horses be sent to auction? Most of them will still not be fit to go anywhere, and if they do they’ll end up back in the hands of the horse-meat men. It would be kinder to shoot the lot of them now than risk that happening!! And shoot the owner too while they’re at it! :cry:

    #157392
    Sean Rua
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    Is there anywhere we can read the transcripts of the court case?

    #157443
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    if you go to horseandhound website you can get alot of info from there as its in the mag :wink:

    #157455
    Chris B
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    Heartbreaking, this scumbag and all those connected should be chained up somewhere and left to rot, in the same way he has allowed these lovely animals to.

    I’m a frequent poster on the Ricky Hatton forum so have posted a link to the petition there.

    #157460
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    yea i know i would like to get my hands on him… the welfare act and rspca are going through all legal roads to apeal to the judge kainth to prevent some being returned to the premices, the majority are going to auction in warick on may 3rd,, the ones being returned is somethink to do with sec20 under the return of animals un der the animal welfare act…….hope that helps you? its all sick. :twisted:

    #157478
    Nor1
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    This whole disgraceful episode depicts, what a supposedly civilised governing establishment’s attitude is, towards those who are weak and defenceless, be they humans or animals.

    #157738
    Chris B
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    There were 1,400 signatures on Thursday afternoon and the petition has closed now and had 19,448 in the end, so it had a great response over the weekend, fingers crossed.

    #157742
    Avatar photograysonscolumn
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    It wasn’t you who used to draw the “Thieving Gypsy B*stards” strip – featuring the McMacMcDougall family – for Viz, was it? 8)

    I’d probably regard the above as a wee bit of a generalisation, having interacted pretty peaceably with most of the travellers at the annual Seamer Horse Fair during my five years in North Yorkshire.

    By the same token I know what the delinquent faction among them are capable of. I distinctly remember one of those Theakston-narrated Animal Police-type programmes a year or so ago, where one such was finally arrested despite repeated warnings against his sustained and brazen pasting of a poor animal for not wading through a village centre stream quick enough.

    gc

    Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.

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