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I have a feeling Karabak is more ready for this assignment, and Zaynars will come on for the run.
Agree with that.
Zaynar is a class act but with his penalty I think he’s vulnerable. Plus he’ll need to travel better than he sometimes does at a track like Ascot. You can get away with it at Newbury or Cheltenham to an extent but Ascot is not the kind of place you can afford to lose a bit of ground.
Machine
Can we have immediate life bans for anyone whos uses that horrible expression "machine" please!
Beautiful performance. Certainly come on again from last season and always in command
Can we have immediate life bans for anyone whos uses that horrible expression "machine" please!
Beautiful performance. Certainly come on again from last season and always in command
‘Machine’ far better than ‘tool’
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That was an excellent performance made Karabak look moderate and he could be even better over further.
Also like to put a word in for Diamond Harry (Cos I backed him
) absolutely awesome display and the 3rd horse was trailing somehwere in the next county. To think MD’H kicked him into touch…….we must be approaching one of the best era in NH racing of all time…..some fantastic horses out there at the moment.- Total Posts 17716
Love your logic, Fist.
MD’H looks sensational because he beat Diamond Harry yet, in the same post, the horse who split them looks moderate?A nice display from Zaynar. Travelled beautifully and, inexperience aside, he seems a lovely, straight-forward horse.
Cheekpieces do little for a horses appearance and I never realized what a gorgous animal he is until today.
He’ll make up into a nice chaser one day, but was that Champion Hurdle winning form? He beat an unexposed, staying sort in Karabak, but the likes of Punjabi, Binocular, Celestial Halo and Hurricane Fly are on a different planet to the Alan King horse over two miles.
He’s open to improvement and he will need to be. His juvenile form was solid, if unspectacular, and this is a quality, quality group of two miles hurdlers we have at the moment.
What a performance from Diamond Harry! Top weight under testing conditions and he laughed at them. Those who backed him were no doubt shouting a string of expletives at Timmy Murphy after the last. He knew what was under him, thankfully.
Connections will be pondering whether to tackle the bigger obstacles after that. He’s a big horse that has needed plenty of time and it may be wise to leave the novice chase route for another year, or at least try him against a field of real top class staying hurdlers before making a final decision.
The second, Burton Port, looks one to follow over fences.
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Love your logic, Fist.
MD’H looks sensational because he beat Diamond Harry yet, in the same post, the horse who split them looks moderate?Be fair mate I said was made to look moderate
Grrrrrrrr get ya back for that one I personally thought that was a great performance from Zaynar today.
Another tick in another box, against older and some more experienced horses.
Katchit does need a step up in trip and i think that is fairly obvious.
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and this is a quality, quality group of two miles hurdlers we have at the moment.I don’t want to appear rude, but where’s even a 170 horse ?
FWIW Gaz I still dont agree that katchit needs to step up further in trip. I think he and red moloney were run out of it today, they werent the only ones, there were a few decent good ground horses out today at ascot and they all seemed to be going well and looking dangerous with a few furlongs to go but all seemed to empty quite quickly.
At ascot, much like kempton and aintree, I think its fairly hard to run horses out of races on genuinely good ground. Wouldnt mind knowing what the time folks reckon but have a suspicion from the way the races were panning out that the going at ascot today may have been gd-sft.
Think a better surface and same trip and he should acquit himself well, also think the same of red moloney and he has just went straight into the book as one to watch out for in a simliar race on a better surface.
FWIW Gaz I still dont agree that katchit needs to step up further in trip. I think he and red moloney were run out of it today, they werent the only ones, there were a few decent good ground horses out today at ascot and they all seemed to be going well and looking dangerous with a few furlongs to go but all seemed to empty quite quickly.
.I spoke to Mr King about it the other week as Katchit was going round the outdoor school and he was full of zest and seemed very happy, but Mr King did comment that Katchit has lost some of his speed and would simply get tapped for toe at places like Cheltenham and tracks that aren’t speed tracks so to speak.
I think he was still tapped for toe today, ok, i think the ground may have had too much cut in it for him today, but i said earlier in the week that it wouldnt suprise me if Karabak finished infront of Katchit today, and he did.
It remains to be seen where he goes next, i still think he will be over 2 and a half miles next time out, but i think a step up to 3 miles is what may oocur after that.
On Bosranic’s post I think Zaynar does have the class to be a major contender in the Champion Hurdle, maybe too short the distance but he was given a much harder assignment than Celstial Halo and Binocular were given at this stage of the season with carrying a penalty he simply laughed at it. Like Binocular he was ran over Katchit today. who seems a spent force maybe, I hope not..
With Punjabi and Binocular’s route planned out its gonna be interesting to see where Zaynar goes, NH said he will keep them all apart so maybe he will travel to Ireland.
I’m pretty excited about Zaynar’s CH run after that.
I like Karabak E/W, but now the 5’s has gone I think you’d probably have to do a win bet…maybe it will drift to 4’s.
I’ve got a feeling Zaynar may turn out to be a horse that needs a very fast 2 miles, rather than a longer trip.
Karabak was so impressive at Aintree and he would be my pick if I could get at least 7/2 4/1 on him. (Oh, and I wasn’t skint and working on Sat arvo).
Zip
When watching the race I realised I had got Karabak confused with Walkon (thus the impressive Aintree comment) – easily done, I mean, at least one of them is grey
As for Zaynar…very impressive and difficult to know which way to go trip wise. He looks like he could be effective in a top 2 mile or 3 mile race – which is surely the sign of a really decent beast.
Zip
On Bosranic’s post I think Zaynar does have the class to be a major contender in the Champion Hurdle, maybe too short the distance but he was given a much harder assignment than Celstial Halo and Binocular were given at this stage of the season with carrying a penalty he simply laughed at it. Like Binocular he was ran over Katchit today. who seems a spent force maybe, I hope not..
With Punjabi and Binocular’s route planned out its gonna be interesting to see where Zaynar goes, NH said he will keep them all apart so maybe he will travel to Ireland.
I’m pretty excited about Zaynar’s CH run after that.
Hi, RR.
The CH will be a completely different race to the one he contested today. I can’t get too excited over a CH prospect that beat a potential World Hurdle winner of the future.
I was impressed with what I saw today, especially from a 4YO, but (in response to Monksfield’s comment, too) defeating the likes of Katchit and Lough Derg does not entitle him to beat Punjabi, Binocular, Celestial Halo, Hurricane Fly, or even Solwhit and potentially Dunguib.
The afforementioned ‘sextet’ are quality horses and Zaynar will need to improve to figure in the Champion Hurdle, in my opinion. Far from impossible, though. He’s unbeaten and unexposed, but I would like to see him take some bigger scalps before I get too carried away.
I still find it incredible that Punjabi is still as high as 14/1, yet Zaynar is as low as 5/1.
) absolutely awesome display and the 3rd horse was trailing somehwere in the next county. To think MD’H kicked him into touch…….we must be approaching one of the best era in NH racing of all time…..some fantastic horses out there at the moment.
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