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You not find it funny that the firm shortest price offered for Zaynar is Victor Chandler.
That was an excellent performance made Karabak look moderate and he could be even better over further.
Also like to put a word in for Diamond Harry (Cos I backed him
) absolutely awesome display and the 3rd horse was trailing somehwere in the next county. To think MD’H kicked him into touch…….we must be approaching one of the best era in NH racing of all time…..some fantastic horses out there at the moment.I think Karabak ran really well there. He needs further judged on his Baring Bingham run.
Diamond Harry is a favourite of mine and he’s better than his run at Cheltenham suggests imo. His jumping was less than assured that day and I hope they go the RSA route as like Sizing Europe I think that’s when we’ll see the best of him. He looked awesome in the paddock today.You not find it funny that the firm shortest price offered for Zaynar is Victor Chandler.
What does Vic know?
He’s bias, anyway. 
What I do find funny (and tempting) is that Punjabi is more than double the price with VC at 12s.
Why would you want to go round laying your own horse?
Common sense dictates that it would be rather poor business to go around laying your own horse.
I was impressed with what I saw today, especially from a 4YO, but (in response to Monksfield’s comment, too) defeating the likes of Katchit and Lough Derg does not entitle him to beat Punjabi, Binocular, Celestial Halo, Hurricane Fly, or even Solwhit and potentially Dunguib.
The afforementioned ‘sextet’ are quality horses and Zaynar will need to improve to figure in the Champion Hurdle, in my opinion. Far from impossible, though. He’s unbeaten and unexposed, but I would like to see him take some bigger scalps before I get too carried away.
You’re having a laugh, Bosranic. Zaynar has absolutely hammered Katchit and Lough Derg, and the way he despatched Karabak (clearly the much better fancied of the King runners) points to a horse who has already progressed from his juvenile season.
Last year’s 4yo form is proving to be very strong indeed, and yesterday Zaynar showed a sufficiently high level of form to make himself a serious contender in a Champion Hurdle.
I’ve lost count of the amount of people who say "Punjabi is far too big a price". I suggest those people simply go ahead and back the horse for the Champion Hurdle at the odds available, instead of using it as a stick to beat the form of those horse’s which have run.
Zaynar’s run yesterday was what I call a "wow" run, one of those you watch open mouthed, almost in disbelief.
He toyed with his opponents then comprehensively stuffed them.
What does surprise me was his drift in the market, 5/4 in the morning touching 11/4 oncourse.
Zaynar was the clear paddock pick yesterday with Karabak looking good as well.
Lough Derg ran his usual gutsy race but without Scu on board he never seems to run as well – having said that even if Scu had been on board yesterday there is no way he would have beaten Zaynar.
As for the optimum distance for Zaynar, well the way he ran on yesterday I would not bet against him over three miles – he looks to be one of those horses for whom distance is not really relevant.
Interesting to note Zaynar’s time yesterday was a course record and I would suggest the ground felt on the soft side of good – unscientifically there was standing water on the roads surrounding the course.
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On Bosranic’s post I think Zaynar does have the class to be a major contender in the Champion Hurdle, maybe too short the distance but he was given a much harder assignment than Celstial Halo and Binocular were given at this stage of the season with carrying a penalty he simply laughed at it. Like Binocular he was ran over Katchit today. who seems a spent force maybe, I hope not..
With Punjabi and Binocular’s route planned out its gonna be interesting to see where Zaynar goes, NH said he will keep them all apart so maybe he will travel to Ireland.
I’m pretty excited about Zaynar’s CH run after that.
Hi, RR.
The CH will be a completely different race to the one he contested today. I can’t get too excited over a CH prospect that beat a potential World Hurdle winner of the future.
I was impressed with what I saw today, especially from a 4YO, but (in response to Monksfield’s comment, too) defeating the likes of Katchit and Lough Derg does not entitle him to beat Punjabi, Binocular, Celestial Halo, Hurricane Fly, or even Solwhit and potentially Dunguib.
The afforementioned ‘sextet’ are quality horses and Zaynar will need to improve to figure in the Champion Hurdle, in my opinion. Far from impossible, though. He’s unbeaten and unexposed, but I would like to see him take some bigger scalps before I get too carried away.
I still find it incredible that Punjabi is still as high as 14/1, yet Zaynar is as low as 5/1.
It’s what’s known as "The bookies taking the piss"
Nicky Henderson sent out a staying horse for a stayers race. There were no Champion Hurdle horses in it just a bunch of World Hurdle wannabe’s and old Logh Derg.
Nicky Henderson has no intentions of sending Zaynar for the Champion Hurdle, that’s why he stepped him up in trip. Binocular and Punjabi’s trials are cast in stone but no such trial has ven been suggested for Zaynar.
14/1 may seem big about Punjabi but consider his experience, a horse who had been placed in the Triumph and at Aintree then run 3rd in a Champion Hurdle when he beat Celestial Halo and Binocular last year. He is far less likley to improve than them and will find them much tougher opponents this year.I think you will find both have improved way past him this season. Zaynar should be a 20/1 shot and that’s to run.
My idea of the Betting would be: 5/2 Binocular 7/2 Hurricane Fly 7/1 Celestial Halo 8/1 Solwhit, 12/1 Punjabi 20/1 bar and expect themt to finish in just about that order.
You’re having a laugh, Bosranic. Zaynar has absolutely hammered Katchit and Lough Derg, and the way he despatched Karabak (clearly the much better fancied of the King runners) points to a horse who has already progressed from his juvenile season.
Last year’s 4yo form is proving to be very strong indeed, and yesterday Zaynar showed a sufficiently high level of form to make himself a serious contender in a Champion Hurdle.
I’ve lost count of the amount of people who say "Punjabi is far too big a price". I suggest those people simply go ahead and back the horse for the Champion Hurdle at the odds available, instead of using it as a stick to beat the form of those horse’s which have run.
I don’t think ‘hammering’ Lough Derg and Katchit is anything to get too excited about at the moment, Grass.
Zaynar beat, for all intents and purposes, a potential staying champion of the future over, effectively, two and a half miles. Red Moloney is a right monkey. Lough Derg is half the horse without Tom Scudamore in the saddle and his biggest triumph came in the Long Walk Hurdle over three miles-one. Katchit arguably needs further these days and has been woefully out of form since his Champion Hurdle success. Ascot wasn’t exactly going to bring out the best in him, either.
Celestial Halo beat very little at Wincanton, but it was a fine weight-carrying performance, nonetheless, on his seasonal bow and he was visually very impressive.
Punjabi has won or been placed in the previous two runnings of the Champion Hurdle and it’s Punchestown equivalent. He’ll be a hard horse to keep out of the frame again come March and you wouldn’t rule out further improvement.
Binocular is one of the most talented hurdlers I’ve seen and if you ask Nicky Henderson who would come out on top over two miles between Zaynar and Binocular, he would probably walk away sniggering at the stupidity of the question.
Punjabi, Binocular and Celestial Halo have set the standard, the latter showing his wellbeing already this term.
It will take a very good horse to seperate them and I would currently put both Solwhit and Hurricane Fly ahead of Zaynar as potential candidates. Dunguib, also, if connections decide to go down that route.
However, Zaynar does have a victory over Lough Derg and Katchit to his name. That’s something to be proud of.
Punjabi, Binocular and Celestial Halo have set the standard, the latter showing his wellbeing already this term.
It will take a very good horse to seperate them and I would currently put both Solwhit and Hurricane Fly ahead of Zaynar as potential candidates. Dunguib, also, if connections decide to go down that route.
However, Zaynar does have a victory over Lough Derg and Katchit to his name. That’s something to be proud of.
The apparent dismissal of last year’s juvenile form is bizarre enough, but the exclusion of Zaynar from the Champion Hurdle equation in favour of the utterly unproven Dunguib, is simply comical.
Three big winners yesterday are all eligible for the Relkeel Hurdle at Cheltenham on the same card as the Bula.
A meeting between Zaynar, Mr Thriller and Diamond Harry over 2m 5f would be worth going to see and it’s unlikely that any of them would be opting to take on the big boys at 2M.
AP
Three big winners yesterday are all eligible for the Relkeel Hurdle at Cheltenham on the same card as the Bula.
A meeting between Zaynar, Mr Thriller and Diamond Harry over 2m 5f would be worth going to see and it’s unlikely that any of them would be opting to take on the big boys at 2M.
AP
It would be fantastic to see, but I doubt Diamond Harry, in particular, would want a race so quickly. Connections felt he didn’t recover his condition that well between runs last year and are looking to restrict him to just one more run before a crack at the World Hurdle.
Three big winners yesterday are all eligible for the Relkeel Hurdle at Cheltenham on the same card as the Bula.
A meeting between Zaynar, Mr Thriller and Diamond Harry over 2m 5f would be worth going to see and it’s unlikely that any of them would be opting to take on the big boys at 2M.
AP
Good call, AP.
Nicky Henderson is targeting the Relkeel Hurdle with Zaynar.
Run over two miles-five at Cheltenham, previous winners include Black Jack Ketchum, Mighty Man, Lough Derg and Crystal d’Ainey.
Next stop, Cleeve Hurdle.
Zaynar is the one to beat come march IMO.
Two miles around cheltenham is perfect for the animal and he hadn’t even reached reached third gear at the finish yesterday. Celestial Halo would give him a lovely lead. We’re looking at a very special horse here.
Not sure 2m 5f in soft ground on the New Course would be ideal for Zaynar. The Bula (Boylesports) would suit him better, surely.
Zaynar is the one to beat come march IMO.
Two miles around cheltenham is perfect for the animal and he hadn’t even reached reached third gear at the finish yesterday. Celestial Halo would give him a lovely lead. We’re looking at a very special horse here.
Celestial Halo would give him a lovely lead…and stay there!
Had to work a bit harder than third gear, in my opinion. Fourth, maybe.
I wonder who Nicky Henderson considers the more ‘special’: Binocular or Zaynar?
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There’s a surprise Nicky sending him over further
I can remember all the raving about Chomba Womba when she beat Crack Away Jack in this race. She went to Ascot, was backed from about 7/1 to 11/2 on the day and got handed her lunch by Binocular to the tune of about 20 lengths and he wasn’t out of a canter.
Just reading some of the comments on here helps my understand why the bookie always wins.
Nicky will have one eye on the Relkeel and his other will be firmly fixed on the World Hurdle if the horse win well.
Take out Big Buck’s you have nothing and Kasbah Bliss and Baily’s whatsitsname both ran in the World Hurdle when they were 5 year old.
He looks a tough mature horse for his age and if he keeps winning and looks like he’ll get the trip….Nicky will give it a go I reckon.
) absolutely awesome display and the 3rd horse was trailing somehwere in the next county. To think MD’H kicked him into touch…….we must be approaching one of the best era in NH racing of all time…..some fantastic horses out there at the moment.
He’s bias, anyway. 
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