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  • #275003
    Avatar photoHard Held
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    CCB is the one.

    People will have only just stopped drooling over Dunguib’s Supreme win and then just as the Dunguib droolers think they can stop drooling, they’ll have to drool again over CCB’s Arkle win.

    It’s going to be special.

    It’s going to end three out. 8)

    Yes the race will be over 3 out when he starts to streak clear for a 12 length success :D

    #275016
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    CCB is the one.

    People will have only just stopped drooling over Dunguib’s Supreme win and then just as the Dunguib droolers think they can stop drooling, they’ll have to drool again over CCB’s Arkle win.

    It’s going to be special.

    It’s going to end three out. 8)

    Yes the race will be over 3 out when he starts to streak clear for a 12 length success :D

    …minus his jockey. :mrgreen:

    #275020
    Avatar photoThe Ante-Post King
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    The Captain approaches his fences with confidence almost exuberance on occassions, he gets plenty height over the majority of them,but he comes down very steeply and that will be his downfall i"m afraid he is the sort to do a somersault on landing at Cheltenham god forbid! Sizing Europe jumps much more athletically but where as the Captain has an engine, Sizing will be running on empty after the last!What is required is a horse with Sizings jumping prowess and an engine like the Captains! Somersbys the name! :wink:

    #275040
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    Somersby is a place lay.

    The horse that could beat the Irish is the one running, all being well, over 2m on Saturday. If Long Run turns up on the Tuesday, then both Irish horses will be absolutely full pelt coming down the hill. It would be some sight if he’s switched.

    #275051
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    In fact, he doesn’t come down steeply as such…take a look at the videos. He actually hit the last at Leopardstown hard with his back legs and this tipped him up, it was head on so you have to look closely. He did the same but to a lesser extent at Naas.
    CCB has very much a hurdling style at his fences and its very fast and effective mostly but when he stands off a bit he tends to hit the fence behind and it can cause him to pitch.
    He should be alright at Cheltenham but might be a candidate for getting ‘half lengthed’ so his jockey (AP?) will have to be careful.

    #275053
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    Impossible to know, CCB used a lot of petrol to get on terms, and SE was hardly stopping.

    Can’t see why people are so sure of a result that never happened.

    But anyway, I’m according

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    horses the respect they deserve imo.

    Agreed but at Cheltenham it’s the one that jumps round safely that wins, it seems to rest between the two , If I was a jockey I’d feel a lot safer sat on Sizing Europe, I think the way Captain Cee Bee lands so steeply will cost him dearly coming down the hill

    If the period when Sizing Europe was injured or suffering the after effects is ignored, then his record is impeccable

    PS I still think Sizing would have won last time out :D

    Agreed.
    To suggest that CCB’s success was a formality had he jumped the last is plain wrong,the price discrepancy between the two of them is most unbalanced judged on all known factors.
    Sizing Europe is a confident selection in a race where jumping with precision is of paramount importance.
    The good Captain will not get around,seldom have I seen a more certain candidate to end up on the deck at the downhill fence.
    Sizing Europe wins.
    Back him accordingly.

    #275083
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    One problem I have relates to Captain Cee Bee and Long Run
    Neither are foot perfect yet I seem to be the only one on this forum who expects Long Run to end up on the deck whether it’s in The Arkle or The RSA yet on all we’ve seen so far The Captain is by far the better jumper of the two.
    It doesn’t make sense?

    #275097
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    Long Run: five chase starts, five completions, four wins.

    Captain Cee Bee: three chase starts, two completions, two wins.

    Both

    need to brush-up their jumping. Long Run needs to improve his technique over English fences, and CBB needs to take fewer liberties. That’s it.

    #275240
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    Somersby is a place lay.

    If you"re going to come out with a pearler like that explain your reasons! :shock:

    #275241
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    He beat a dog on his debut over fences and just edged on from Crack Away Jack (a supposed superstar who was mullered in the Desert Orchid) and Tchico Polos (who hasn’t finished within a whiff of the arses of Long Run and Punchestowns) in the Henry VIII.

    With Captain Cee Bee, Long Run, Sizing Europe and Riverside Theatre in opposition, as well as outsiders like Osana, Bergo, Woolcombe Folly and Kangaroo Court, a place lay makes plenty of sense.

    #275243
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    a place lay makes plenty of sense.

    Somersby is 2/1 if you were to lay him for a place Media, so if you had £50 on at the price how much would you win if he finishes out the 3? Oh i forgot you dont know how to lay!! :lol:

    #275244
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    I could explain why he hasn’t a cat in hell’s chance of winning but I really can’t be bothered :mrgreen: MG sums it up quite well though.

    #275245
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    I could explain why he hasn’t a cat in hell’s chance of winning but I really can’t be bothered :mrgreen: MG sums it up quite well though.

    Only quite well? You have just had that "Oh i wish i hadn"t said that" moment haven"t you Bucksy? I would have normally had to take you to task about such an opinion and had a little wager,but you cant be trusted! :wink:

    #275246
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    No, I can’t have him with stolen, not sure how clear I need to be :mrgreen:

    #275280
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    Somersby’s 2.82 to place in the Arkle on Betfair, TAPK, but my poor, mathemtically-challenged brain can obviously only cope with whole numbers (it’s a good job they’re almost giving out first class degress these days or else I might have looked stupid).

    2/1 is on the table should you wish not to wimp out like you did with According.

    #275312
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    I agree with Grassie, Captain Cee Bee’s jumping is very novicey, silly mistakes, nearly made the same mistake at Naas on Saturday, however if he brushes up, he is some tool.

    JohnJ.

    #275469
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    Somersby’s 2.82 to place in the Arkle on Betfair, TAPK, but my poor, mathemtically-challenged brain can obviously only cope with whole numbers (it’s a good job they’re almost giving out first class degress these days or else I might have looked stupid).

    2/1 is on the table should you wish not to wimp out like you did with According.

    The day i wimp out from a challenge from you is the day they give Black belts out to First class maths students who dont know how to lay horses! :lol: You answer my question,then i will know you are actually worthy of a wager! :wink: 1/3 says you still dont know the answer to what you would win if you Lay Somersby for £50 at 2/1 to place in the first three and he finishes unplaced! :roll:

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