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Tohat was f*****g amazing, I’m not blowing my own trumpet, many on here fancied her, I’m just glad she was as good as I had imagined…and then some.
This has turned into a good punting weekend for me, Heaven’s Guest at 16-1 yesterday and having gone back in today again for Treve when she was still 5-1. Makes up for a lot of weekends when I’m giving my "if only" or hard luck story.Only downside is that Mrs Big G, has already picked out her next outfit on the strength of it
I would congratulate you BigG, but telling the Mrs is a rookie error and you deserve nothing but contempt.
Wise words Peruvian, wise words
I don’t like Cricquette, oh no…..I love her, yeah
Sensational performance! Considering how much she sweated and how keen she was there were valid excuses if she had been beaten, so to do what she did was amazing.
Personally I was delighted with the run of Intello, there’s no finer sight than Peslier sitting motionless aboard a well settled horse.
That is quite possibly the best performance I have ever seen by a female racehorse!
Absolutely amazing!
Value Is EverythingI think I agree with that Ginger, in terms of taking the breath away it was right up there with Zarkava’s Vermeille!
I think I agree with that Ginger, in terms of taking the breath away it was right up there with Zarkava’s Vermeille!
Add Moonlight Cloud’s Foret win to the list…
Thank goodness I got to see it on 4+1. Amazing; there was that acceleration again! Definately going to go to the Arc again next year.
Thank goodness I got to see it on 4+1. Amazing; there was that acceleration again! Definately going to go to the Arc again next year.
I know you had to be elsewhere Moehat, I hope you didn’t know the result before watching it on the 4+1 channel. What a performance, highlight of flat season for me.
I was going to not hear the result before I watched it but ended up running into the house screaming ‘who’s won?’ It was still exciting to watch though. I’d actually booked a hawk walk which was a Christmas present that I hadn’t had time to go on; what added insult to injury was that the fields we went through had horses everywhere. I did actually enjoy it once I was out in the fresh air. Now making sure I don’t double book myself when the Melbourne Cup is on!
I think I agree with that Ginger, in terms of taking the breath away it was right up there with Zarkava’s Vermeille!
Add Moonlight Cloud’s Foret win to the list…
I think that is the closest thing I have seen to Arazi. It looked as if she had been set an impossible task but literally went past them as if they were standing still.
Sensational performance! Considering how much she sweated and how keen she was there were valid excuses if she had been beaten, so to do what she did was amazing.
Personally I was delighted with the run of Intello, there’s no finer sight than Peslier sitting motionless aboard a well settled horse.
I was slightly annoyed with Peslier initially (having backed Intello) felt he rode the perfect race was in the perfect position all the way until off the final bend, for me he should have went for home slightly earlier would have avoided the slight bumping with Orfevre, ultimately it only potentially cost him second so irrelevant I suppose.
Treve was incredible hope to see her back next year.
Treve was simply breathtaking this afternoon and her performance should be heralded as one of the finest we have seen from a filly in recent times, not to mention the illustrious history of this great contest.
The field contained an abundance of international talent, while the top class pair, Orfevre and Al Kazeem, were highly respective representatives from the older generation.
Treve was plenty warm enough before the race and keen during it. Thierry Jarnet used of all his horsemanship and experience to settle the filly and keep her out of trouble. He was sublime in his execution when the race really began in earnest down the false straight. Allowing his enthusiastic partner to breeze up on the outside, Jarnet showed outstanding tactical awareness to hold Christophe Soumillon in a pocket and get first run on Treve.
The result would have been no different given her emphatic response and imperious display, but it could have easily been the difference between success and failure if the Japanese horse had raised his game.
Orfevre needed to improve on his effort twelve months ago but, in this superior field at the age of five, that was always going to be questionable. He was done no favours by Treve and his tracking compatriot, but held every chance from a perfect draw and wasn’t good enough on the day, eventually just holding Intello for second place. It is hard to envisage him improving on this.
Intello, beaten under two lengths by Moonlight Cloud in the Jacques Le Marois over eight furlongs, dismissed any questions regarding his stamina by keeping on for third. He is unlucky not to have captured two classics this season and options are wide open for him next year. His best trip will arguably prove to be ten furlongs, where he can utilise his high cruising speed, turn of foot and stamina to maximum effect.
Kizuna looks the type to improve as a 4YO and you wouldn’t rule him out returning next year and going closer. He travelled as well as anything, just like he did three weeks earlier, but may just improve for the initial experience and perhaps more prominent tactics.
Of the others, Penglai Pavilion has already won over thirteen furlongs on soft ground and could develop into a smart stayer next year, while Al Kazeem ended his career with a perfectly respectable effort – he could have gone closer with a more advantageous draw.
Ruler Of The World still remains open to improvement but is looking slightly exposed now and needs certain conditions to be competitive at this level, while Flintshire never looked happy on the ground and is certainly worth another chance against this calibre of opposition granted a quicker surface.
Leading Light has already won at group level over ten, fourteen and sixteen furlongs in a seven race career. He endured an awful passage from start to finish and is certainly better than the bare form. He is an obvious candidate for the top staying events next year from one mile-six upwards, but he should be given another chance to contest a quality race over twelve furlongs. He is a very likeable character.
With her high cruising speed and electric turn of foot, Treve would be competitive over any distance between eight and twelve furlongs. It will be interesting to see where connections target her next season, and it would take a brave person to say that she can’t follow up and become the first dual winner since Alleged in 1978.
Brilliant review Bos, could not disagree with any of it.
…And you know I like to find something to disagree with.
Value Is EverythingGood points made on here about Ballydoyle tactics. Beforehand I did not agree with some TV experts worried about no pace. Leading Light has proven effective from the front and needs a test of stamina at the trip. It would also have benifited their other runner Ruler Of The World. Other natural prominent runners like Joshua Tree were also staying types and (I thought) would do best in a truly run race. With horses of this sort the old "don’t set the race up for others" does not apply.
My three bets were Al Kazeem, Ruler Of The World and saver on Treve. With early fractions as they were and AK and T having their own barging match, I was not too pleased at halfway. If I had tickets would’ve torn them up.
Value Is EverythingBosranic – do you think ROTW gave his true running today? It looked a strange run to me.
Travelling nicely in a perfect position, to going backwards faster than the Italian Army, to staying on to a respectable 6th, a in the space of about 3-4f.
I don’t think that was his his true running (as per Epsom), although he certainly wouldn’t be the first horse who never produced the same again.
Good points made on here about Ballydoyle tactics. Beforehand I did not agree with some TV experts worried about no pace. Leading Light has proven effective from the front and needs a test of stamina at the trip. It would also have benifited their other runner Ruler Of The World. Other natural prominent runners like Joshua Tree were also staying types and (I thought) would do best in a truly run race. With horses of this sort the old "don’t set the race up for others" does not apply.
My three bets were Al Kazeem, Ruler Of The World and saver on Treve. With early fractions as they were and AK and T having their own barging match, I was not too pleased at halfway. If I had tickets would’ve torn them up.
GT just being nosey, but you were clearly hugely impressed with Treve today (who wasn’t) to the extent you have raised a thread suggesting it MAY be the best fillies performance of al time.
You are basing some of this angle on the beating given to Orfevre, whom you seemingly rate highly. But he wasn’t one of the three you backed in the race. Was this purely because you felt his price too short?
I’ll be quite frank and confess that I have a tendency to underestimate fillies against colts … seems to be a fatal flaw that I have!
Treve was hugely impressive. Her win looked like a cross between that of Zarkava and Danedream but with extra venom.
I torn all my betting tickets up into lots of little pieces, sprinkled them into the bog and vigorously piddled all over them before flushing with utter scorn.
Bosranic – do you think ROTW gave his true running today? It looked a strange run to me.
Travelling nicely in a perfect position, to going backwards faster than the Italian Army, to staying on to a respectable 6th, a in the space of about 3-4f.
I don’t think that was his his true running (as per Epsom), although he certainly wouldn’t be the first horse who never produced the same again.
Time has told us that Ruler Of The World beat an average field at Epsom, with those in proximity proving themselves one-paced at Doncaster over one mile-six in the St Leger.
Kizuna beat him more emphatically today than he did in the Prix Niel, but the Arc is always a different proposition and it’s perhaps folly to compare them. I thought Kizuna would improve more than ROTW, but the result doesn’t mean that I was justified in my assertion so I guess a lot depends on your initial opinion of the colt.
He will always be vulnerable on fast ground against top quality opposition, but granted soft ground and / or a fast pace (always difficult to get both in the same race at the highest level) he could be dangerous.
He wasn’t helped by Al Kazeem two furlongs out and had to switch around him, but it was his lack of acceleration that presented problems.
He will certainly stay further and, should he stay in training, maybe a return to Chester for the Ormonde Stakes would be a good starting point en-route to a tilt at the Coronation (a la St Nicholas Abbey in 2011).
He has plenty to prove, but has time to prove himself.
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