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Ante – post betting, like all other methods of gambling, is a total waste of time if you lose money.
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Thank you guys.
I probably will refrain from having a punt at Ante post then to be honest.
Just thought there was a bit of value for a few of them running at Cheltenham, but the old addage of not knowing what happens with the horses between now and then is what puts you off.
Thank you guys.
I probably will refrain from having a punt at Ante post then to be honest.
Just thought there was a bit of value for a few of them running at Cheltenham, but the old addage of not knowing what happens with the horses between now and then is what puts you off.
After reading your post last night I went of to the pub. I was talking to my ex bookie (VERY VERY WEALTHY) friend about this very subject…thanks to you and too much beer I placed the biggest bet I have had for years
I have xxxxxx at 3/1 Kauto Star win Single for the King George and xxxxxx win single him winning the Gold Cup 7/2 I got inflated odds but had to put on an XXX,XXX double (twice the single stake) to get those odds.
In Short of he wins the gold cup I come out on top. Wins The King George I come out even. He wins them both I’m buying the horse
If you want an AP bet, do what I have done and bring me some luck.
Incidentally I retired to Thailand after making a very good living from betting national hunt horses (never bet seriously on the flat) and I have seen some great horses.
IMHO Kauto Star is the best horse I have seen in over 20 mabye even 40 years.
When 100% fit he absolutely oozes class and can do it at any distance.
I would rate him only behind Arkle, and put him on a par with greats like Persian War, Desert Orchid, Istabraq and the ill fated Killiney, even at this early stage of his career.
For me he is a much better Gold Cup horse than Dessie, is a more natural chaser than Dawn Run was, tougher than Pendil and a class above Best Mate, to mention a few.
I think you have named yourself after the only horse you should even contemplate backing ante post for anything.
Could it be I am biased?
Thanks!!! If he wins the King George I might fly back to the Uk to shout "Kick him in the belly" at Cheltenham.
Probably have to sell my golf clubs this week to eat
but hey! I was getting to fat anyway It’s interesting to read the (generally negative) views on ante-post betting.
I’ve done well out of it over the years. In fact, I’d say that all my most substantial wins have been ante-post. It doesn’t suit everybody and there are plenty of downs but I will always have a few such bets running at any given time.
My best wins have been on AP markets. Footstepsinthesand at 20/1 for the 2000, single and doubled with Hardy Eustace in the Champion at 9/1. Also Pasternak for the Cambs doubled with Peintre Celebre for the Arc, and tripled with Top Cees for the Ces….pity about the last one! I’ve had some setbacks in the AP markets too, of course, but overall from above in particular have more than covered.
Currently sitting on all combos of Sublimity for Champion, Voy Por in the Queen Mother, My Way de Solzen in the Gold Ciup, and Jupiter Pluviius for the 2000. Silly maybe, but as Jimmy Fitzgerald once remarked "You only need to land one at long odds to make it pay…".
J
It’s interesting to read the (generally negative) views on ante-post betting.
I’ve done well out of it over the years. In fact, I’d say that all my most substantial wins have been ante-post. It doesn’t suit everybody and there are plenty of downs but I will always have a few such bets running at any given time.
Absolutely nothing wrong with having a few bob on and if luck is with you, you can land it big.
I think AP punters for Cheltenham should wait until just before The King George though and not only bet their fancies over Xmas but bet them at Cheltenham too. Half your stakes and if you have a good Xmas you will have stolen the odds. e.g. Kauto wins the King George what price for the Gold Cup…….you will be lucky if he is 11/10
I think picking 2 or even 3 horses in each race at Cheletenham for small stakes at good odds and crossing them over in trebles or even accumalators can bring huge rewards, whereas single selections are very likely to fail. Unless you have backed Kauto Star like me
There’s no doubt in my mind that if you’re going to bet ante-post on the Cheltenham Festival or the classics then it’s sensible to take the prices on offer immediately after a horse runs an impressive trial. The prices inevitably shorten over the next few days. Twice Over, a winner at Newmarket on Saturday is a case in point. He was available at 25/1 straight after the race for next year’s Derby. Best price is now 16s.
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It’s interesting to read the (generally negative) views on ante-post betting.
I’ve done well out of it over the years. In fact, I’d say that all my most substantial wins have been ante-post. It doesn’t suit everybody and there are plenty of downs but I will always have a few such bets running at any given time.
Just a thought, and not a particularly edifying one is, that apart from the bookmakers, jockey’s agents and their contacts must do better than most from the ante-post markets?
Week after week we see horses drifting ominously in the days leading up to the big races for them inevitably to be withdrawn or not amongst the final declarations, and far too often and accurately for it to be coincidence or guesswork.
Nice work if you can get it, and perfectly legitimate too, as far as I am aware.
Caveat emptor?Just a thought, and not a particularly edifying one is, that apart from the bookmakers, jockey’s agents and their contacts must do better than most from the ante-post markets?
I think you can add racing journalists to that list, reet. They’re the first to see the post-race quotes and they’re well looked after by the bookies’ reps if they want to take any particularly eyecatching price.
As far as the general point you make is concerned, clearly any punter should be alive to horses drifting in the market as declaration time approaches.
but hey! I was getting to fat anyway 
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