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- June 28, 2004 at 10:40 #93596
It wouldn’t be restraining them from riding or training racehorses – just from running them in races that were organised by the club (or Club).:cool:
June 28, 2004 at 10:42 #93598Also think Zorro’s idea is pretty good. It could help to target specifically the most seriously crooked jocks and trainers, who after all are known to the authorities.<br>As to court cases, not sure about that. Would serial perpretators want go into the withess box and face a question along the lines of,
Have you ever been involved in fixing a race Mr/Ms….?
Whichever answer was given, they’d be in a fix. Courts take a dim view of perjury.
Zorro, if I may say so, thought the way you drew attention in today’s RP to Turn Around’s latest run was superbly done. Please keep it up.<br>richard
June 28, 2004 at 11:05 #93599Quote: from richard on 11:42 am on June 28, 2004[br]<br>Whichever answer was given, they’d be in a fix. Courts take a dim view of perjury.<br>
If only that were so. In the Top Cees case, Thommo and Fallon attested to mutually exclusive evidence. Clearing one of them was lieing yet no charges were brought.
The problem with the idea of not issuing licences to suspect characters is that you have to prove involvement otherwise it’s a restraint of trade. The FA could ban Rio Ferdinand because he was culpable for not taking the test. Proving that a jockey is related to an exchange drift is a different matter entirely though not impossible.
June 28, 2004 at 12:04 #93600Having re read all this again and some of the airy-fairy views expressed.<br> The biggest problem with racing as I have intimated before is the joint problem, that racing is in some mystified old time warp, with hat doffing jockeys, horses withers and some old geezers in triblies. <br>Until stewards on course, have a live video of each and every race, this video fed straight through to portman square. Jockeys trainers and owners, should face an imediate ban, similar to Rio Ferdinand for altrications against rules and a life ban for a second offence <br>Trainers submit any known problems or issues that could affect the animal before races. <br>As part of their right to use the product, exchanges and bookies should report suspisious betting patterns.<br>In part professionalise a mega million pound sport. <br>The jockey club and the BHB should be populated by both sides horse and non horse minded people.<br>If I stood to make a couple ten grand, from a shady operation, I would soon reconsider if my livlehood for ever was taken away.<br>Yes there will be court cases and they must be endured that is how our legal system is structured, but in the long term, we have all witnessed blatent non triers and we should not have to phone the racing post jockey club, they should see it and deal with it.
A judge or juror in any case usually has to declare an interest, and will usually stand down, how can the jockey club and its stewards, try precepts that they have in many cases a vested interest.
Also big winnings should be held by the bookies/exchanges for a period in case of any fiddling suspision maybe 24hrs.
THE CHANGE MUST START AT THE TOP. So that all realise that cheating Just ain’t worth the bother. They are going to get banned or not get their ill planned profits.
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